New Schedule - Season Prediction Time!!!

bigdaddykane

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11/14 Oakland - W (1-0, 0-0)
11/17 Georgia State - W (2-0, 0-0)
11/24 Alabama - W (3-0, 0-0)
11/25 Arizona State/Maryland - W (4-0, 0-0)
12/2 Lamar - W (5-0, 0-0)
12/4 Arkansas - W (6-0, 0-0)
12/9 UMKC - W (7-0, 0-0)
12/12 @Iowa - L (7-1, 0-0)
12/14 Southern - W (8-1, 0-0)
12/20 Drake - W (9-1, 0-0)
12/31 Mississippi Valley State - W (10-1, 0-0)
1/3 South Carolina - W (11-1, 0-0)
1/6 Okie State - W (12-1, 1-0)
1/10 @WVU - W (13-1, 2-0)
1/14 @Baylor - L (13-2, 2-1)
1/17 Kansas - W (14-2, 3-1)
1/20 Kansas State - W (15-2, 4-1)
1/24 @Texas Tech - W (16-2, 5-1)
1/26 Texas - W (17-2, 6-1)
1/31 TCU - W (18-2, 7-1)
2/2 @Kansas - L (18-3, 7-2)
2/7 Texas Tech - W (19-3, 8-2)
2/9 @Oklahoma - L (19-4, 8-3)
2/14 WVU - W (20-4, 9-3)
2/18 @Okie State - W (21-4, 10-3)
2/21 @Texas - L (21-5, 10-4)
2/25 Baylor - W (22-5, 11-4)
2/28 @Kansas State - L (22-6, 11-5)
3/2 Oklahoma - W (23-6, 12-5)
3/7 TCU - W (24-6, 13-5)
Big 12 Tourney - 2 Seed
QF - West Virginia - W (25-6, 13-5)
Semi - Texas - W (26-6, 13-5)
Finals - Kansas - L (26-7, 17-4)

ISU is a number 3 seed. They win their first game against Mercer. They play the 6 seed Nebraska Cornhuskers in Omaha and beat them. In the Sweet 16, they go to Houston and beat Duke. They lose in the elite 8 against Kentucky, finishing 29-8 overall
I think we will beat Iowa and baylor
 

ChampFantana

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Fred is getting better each year winning more conference road games because he has better teams. With a roster like we have this year, I expect our only road losses to be to Kansas, Texas, and MAYBE Oklahoma. It's still shocking to see 9 out of 10 people on here predicting a loss to Iowa. It still makes no sense to me why so many downers automatically assume Iowa will win because we're playing on the road.

Going from 4-5 (2012) to 3-6 (2013) to 3-6 (2014) doesn't suggest that it's getting better.
 

twocoach

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I'll start worrying about that if we quit running the table (or nearly) at home and getting NCAA bids.
No one is saying it has kept ISU from making the tourney; just kept them from getting to the next level where they are legit Big 12 title contenders. All coaches and teams have weak areas that they need to improve to get to their next goal; this is Hoiberg's and ISUs. It takes more post presence to win on the road since all shots look the same from 2 feet away. Shooters struggle more on the road because they are more reliant on background visuals and rims. As ISU continues to improve on the quality of interior players they have, they will improve on the road.
 

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No one is saying it has kept ISU from making the tourney; just kept them from getting to the next level where they are legit Big 12 title contenders. All coaches and teams have weak areas that they need to improve to get to their next goal; this is Hoiberg's and ISUs. It takes more post presence to win on the road since all shots look the same from 2 feet away. Shooters struggle more on the road because they are more reliant on background visuals and rims. As ISU continues to improve on the quality of interior players they have, they will improve on the road.



Once again, has Fred lost a whole bunch of games as a road favorite? (One a season maybe?)

Everybody can figure that a bigger frontline can help results but he's got a system that requires versatile players.

He'll take the biggest players that can play. ​He's never going to keep two or three big stiffs around to win the "looks good walking through the airport" game.
 

MNCyGuy

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McKay's first game:

@CycloneMBB: Iowa State-Drake will tip at 4 p.m. in the Hy-Vee Big Four http://t.co/qiJVXPNQ5I info will be released later. http://t.co/ITVoATEjAF

I wonder if that "TV info will be released later" means we might get something better than just cyclones.tv this year. Having the event move into that late December dead period for MBB probably helps the cause of getting the Big 4 games picked up.
 

bawbie

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Once again, has Fred lost a whole bunch of games as a road favorite? (One a season maybe?)

Fred is 5-6 as a conference road favorite (per the spreads listed on statsheet.com)

2012: 1-1 (Lost to OSU)
2013: 2-2 (losses UT & TTU)
2014: 2-3 (losses WVU, UT & OU)

a number of those are very painful losses.
 

twocoach

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Once again, has Fred lost a whole bunch of games as a road favorite? (One a season maybe?) Everybody can figure that a bigger frontline can help results but he's got a system that requires versatile players. He'll take the biggest players that can play. ​He's never going to keep two or three big stiffs around to win the "looks good walking through the airport" game.
Are the teams that are winning Big 12 road games doing it with "two or three big stiffs around to win the "looks good walking through the airport" game?" No. I think everyone here can see that ISU has been going after more size in their recruiting targets and will continue to do so to compete against the other top tier Big 12 teams that have great post players.
 

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11/14 Oakland - W (1-0, 0-0)
11/17 Georgia State - W (2-0, 0-0)
11/24 Alabama - W (3-0, 0-0)
11/25 Arizona State/Maryland - W (4-0, 0-0)
12/2 Lamar - W (5-0, 0-0)
12/4 Arkansas - W (6-0, 0-0)
12/9 UMKC - W (7-0, 0-0)
12/12 @Iowa - L (7-1, 0-0)
12/14 Southern - W (8-1, 0-0)
12/20 Drake - W (9-1, 0-0)
12/31 Mississippi Valley State - W (10-1, 0-0)
1/3 South Carolina - W (11-1, 0-0)
1/6 Okie State - W (12-1, 1-0)
1/10 @WVU - W (13-1, 2-0)
1/14 @Baylor - L (13-2, 2-1)
1/17 Kansas - W (14-2, 3-1)
1/20 Kansas State - W (15-2, 4-1)
1/24 @Texas Tech - W (16-2, 5-1)
1/26 Texas - W (17-2, 6-1)
1/31 TCU - W (18-2, 7-1)
2/2 @Kansas - L (18-3, 7-2)
2/7 Texas Tech - W (19-3, 8-2)
2/9 @Oklahoma - L (19-4, 8-3)
2/14 WVU - W (20-4, 9-3)
2/18 @Okie State - W (21-4, 10-3)
2/21 @Texas - L (21-5, 10-4)
2/25 Baylor - W (22-5, 11-4)
2/28 @Kansas State - L (22-6, 11-5)
3/2 Oklahoma - W (23-6, 12-5)
3/7 TCU - W (24-6, 13-5)
Big 12 Tourney - 2 Seed
QF - West Virginia - W (25-6, 13-5)
Semi - Texas - W (26-6, 13-5)
Finals - Kansas - L (26-7, 13-5)

ISU is a number 3 seed. They win their first game against Mercer. They play the 6 seed Nebraska Cornhuskers in Omaha and beat them. In the Sweet 16, they go to Houston and beat Duke. They lose in the elite 8 against Kentucky, finishing 29-8 overall

11/14 Oakland - W (1-0, 0-0)
11/17 Georgia State - W (2-0, 0-0)
11/24 Alabama - W (3-0, 0-0)
11/25 Arizona State/Maryland - W (4-0, 0-0)
12/2 Lamar - W (5-0, 0-0)
12/4 Arkansas - L (5-1, 0-0)
12/9 UMKC - W (6-1, 0-0)
12/12 @Iowa - W (7-1, 0-0)
12/14 Southern - W (8-1, 0-0)
12/20 Drake - W (9-1, 0-0)
12/31 Mississippi Valley State - W (10-1, 0-0)
1/3 South Carolina - W (11-1, 0-0)
1/6 Okie State - W (12-1, 1-0)
1/10 @WVU - L (12-2, 1-1)
1/14 @Baylor - W (13-2, 2-1)
1/17 Kansas - L (13-3, 2-2)
1/20 Kansas State - W (14-2, 3-2)
1/24 @Texas Tech - W (15-2, 4-2)
1/26 Texas - L (15-4, 4-3)
1/31 TCU - W (16-4, 5-3)
2/2 @Kansas - L (16-5, 5-4)
2/7 Texas Tech - W (17-5, 6-4)
2/9 @Oklahoma - W (18-5, 7-4)
2/14 WVU - W (19-5, 8-4)
2/18 @Okie State - W (20-5, 9-4)
2/21 @Texas - L (20-6, 9-5)
2/25 Baylor - W (21-6, 10-5)
2/28 @Kansas State - W (22-6, 11-5)
3/2 Oklahoma - W (23-6, 12-5)
3/7 TCU - W (24-6, 13-5)
Big 12 Tourney - 3 Seed
QF - Oklahoma State - W (25-6, 13-5)
Semi - Texas - L (25-7, 13-5)

ISU is a number 5 seed. They avoid the 12-5 curse and win their first game against Harvard. They play the 4 seed Stanford in Portland and beat them. In the Sweet 16, they go to Syracuse and lose to #1 seed North Carolina.
 

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11/14 Oakland - W (1-0, 0-0)
11/17 Georgia State - W (2-0, 0-0)
11/24 Alabama - W (3-0, 0-0)
11/25 Arizona State/Maryland - W (4-0, 0-0)
12/2 Lamar - W (5-0, 0-0)
12/4 Arkansas - L (5-1, 0-0)
12/9 UMKC - W (6-1, 0-0)
12/12 @Iowa - W (7-1, 0-0)
12/14 Southern - W (8-1, 0-0)
12/20 Drake - W (9-1, 0-0)
12/31 Mississippi Valley State - W (10-1, 0-0)
1/3 South Carolina - W (11-1, 0-0)
1/6 Okie State - W (12-1, 1-0)
1/10 @WVU - L (12-2, 1-1)
1/14 @Baylor - W (13-2, 2-1)
1/17 Kansas - L (13-3, 2-2)
1/20 Kansas State - W (14-2, 3-2)
1/24 @Texas Tech - W (15-2, 4-2)
1/26 Texas - L (15-4, 4-3)
1/31 TCU - W (16-4, 5-3)
2/2 @Kansas - L (16-5, 5-4)
2/7 Texas Tech - W (17-5, 6-4)
2/9 @Oklahoma - W (18-5, 7-4)
2/14 WVU - W (19-5, 8-4)
2/18 @Okie State - W (20-5, 9-4)
2/21 @Texas - L (20-6, 9-5)
2/25 Baylor - W (21-6, 10-5)
2/28 @Kansas State - W (22-6, 11-5)
3/2 Oklahoma - W (23-6, 12-5)
3/7 TCU - W (24-6, 13-5)
Big 12 Tourney - 3 Seed
QF - Oklahoma State - W (25-6, 13-5)
Semi - Texas - L (25-7, 13-5)

ISU is a number 5 seed. They avoid the 12-5 curse and win their first game against Harvard. They play the 4 seed Stanford in Portland and beat them. In the Sweet 16, they go to Syracuse and lose to #1 seed North Carolina.

I give this a Like, even though I hope for better than a 5 seed. It's thorough and a little against the grain of expectations of how season might unfold -- swept by ku and ut, losing to arkansas but sweeping OU and ksu.

From how it looks, you see more firm separation of Kansas and Texas compared to rest of the league, correct?
 

roundball

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I give this a Like, even though I hope for better than a 5 seed. It's thorough and a little against the grain of expectations of how season might unfold -- swept by ku and ut, losing to arkansas but sweeping OU and ksu.

From how it looks, you see more firm separation of Kansas and Texas compared to rest of the league, correct?

That's correct. I'm basing these predictions on Myles Turner being a stud and Kansas being, well, Kansas. I think Arkansas will be looking for a statement win and give us a hell of a game. I picked @WVU as the "bad loss" that will serve as a wake-up call and get the boys prepped for the rest of the conference slate.

I'd love a 3rd place finish and a 5 seed, but I'm always hoping for more gravy on top!
 

MNCyGuy

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The only thing that stuck out to me in that article is that Kansas is too big of a 'fraidy cat to schedule Wichita State.

Eh, how many of our fans call for us to drop UNI (and to a lesser extent Drake), and they're not near the challenge that Wichita State is. Glass houses.
 

ISUCY23

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Eh, how many of our fans call for us to drop UNI (and to a lesser extent Drake), and they're not near the challenge that Wichita State is. Glass houses.

Yeah I wasn't really serious considering that they still have the toughest schedule even without Wichita State.


Edit: That sounded pretty condescending. It wasn't meant to be.
 

Thomasrickj

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Eh, how many of our fans call for us to drop UNI (and to a lesser extent Drake), and they're not near the challenge that Wichita State is. Glass houses.
Kansas isn't afraid. Why would they need to schedule WSU? It does them no good. Scheduling a home and home with SDSU makes sense because it's in a large market with a decent recruiting base. Scheduling WSU does nothing for Kansas and WSU wanted a home and home and neutral. WSU is asking for way too much there. Why not a 2 for 1?