Notables from the new Strength and Conditioning article

CyForPresident

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That is an awesome article. Hearing that Burris is up to 293 is great. Maybe he slides inside to RG for Haughton and Lichtenberg takes over at RT. Or maybe Hicks is back this fall. I don't know but losing Haughton ******* sucks.

I honestly feel that by November the defense could be force. There is a lot of young talent that just needs some experience. Guys like McDonough, Reeves, Washington, Knott, and Klein. Even some freshman like George, who is supposedly one of the best athletes on the team, could make a huge impact.
 

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That really helps with some of my concerns...

Burris last year was listed at 276. I thought that was light, but 260 is WAY light. Regardless, he did play some last year, especially in the Nebraska game. Having him at a fairly lean 293 (I assume they wouldn't put bad weight on him) makes him a legit starter and not a liability.

With his build, it would be real difficult to put that much weight on Burris without putting on some bad weight, but any bad weight would be worth it, that's for sure. I wonder if he's got long arms for a 6'7" guy, because it sounds like he's build to be a perfect tackle.
 

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probably the most excited about the OL/DL (apparent) improvements.

burris coming on strong is huge. with the loss of haughton, we need either burris or hicks to step (and remain eligible) in a big way. not sure what positions these two play, but if they are both good enough to compete, the staff can surely move some bodies around to get the best mix.

mcdonough is also great news. we desperately need some force in the middle as we had zero pass rush last season.
 

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Yeah, the bulk of the lard came off his butt. Changed his name to Ruemplesshammer, as a result.

Great to hear about the weight & strength gains especially from kids that will see more playing time this year. I know ISU will be more athletic in many positions this year compared to last year but it would be interesting to see a comparison of last years starters stats to projected starter stats (weight room stats).
 

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As happens every year, most of the weight that the "big boys" have put on will likely be sweat off once camp opens in August. I would expect all of them to be about 10lbs lighter when the season kicks off.

This is very true. I would start every year around 300 and by the time camp was over i was always around 290. Worst year was my junior year when I started camp at 301 and after the season was over is was at 273. But most years I would end up around 280 at the end of the season. My weight room strength would also drop drastically during the season, could normally maintain playing strength, but certain lifts in the weight room would start to drop off pretty fast during the season.

No matter how much I ate and lifted it was impossible to maintain weight during season.
 

FarminCy

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With his build, it would be real difficult to put that much weight on Burris without putting on some bad weight, but any bad weight would be worth it, that's for sure. I wonder if he's got long arms for a 6'7" guy, because it sounds like he's build to be a perfect tackle.


I was a 6'7" 300 lb lineman as well but once I got past the 300 mark my athleticism would start to drop off. I was a lean 300 but my joints just couldn't handle any more. It is better to have a guy be leaner and lighter if he can maintain athleticism. Not sure if that is his case but I have just seen too many guys who think the bigger they are the better and end up being worse players because of it.
 

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I don't think I've ever a single time read a s&c report that was negative.

well, partially because he was asked to pick out the guys who were having the best summers.

Either way, im excited to hear about the guys who have improved a bunch. Time will tell what is going on in that weight room!
 

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That really helps with some of my concerns...

Burris last year was listed at 276. I thought that was light, but 260 is WAY light. Regardless, he did play some last year, especially in the Nebraska game. Having him at a fairly lean 293 (I assume they wouldn't put bad weight on him) makes him a legit starter and not a liability.

Interior DL...McDonough was listed at 270 for the spring and Rump at 280. Having them both near 290 makes me feel a lot better about our interior run D. I wonder where Bailey Johnson and Alburtis are weight-wise. Really, they have a chance to be a pretty good four man rotation.

DE, I always wondered how Pat Neal could do anything at 227. Having him at 240 can only help. Sounds like Parker is rounding back into shape. Man, I would like to see Rony Nelson working out with the team.

It's surprising to me to hear that about Knott. Not that I don't believe McKnight, but here's a kid who had pretty much no offers out of HS. He was going to UNI before CPR got hired. How does a kid with those kinds of phyisical skills, playing 4A CIML ball, almost slip through the cracks??

If it makes you feel any better, Russell Okung had 1 BCS scholarship offer out of HS, and turned into a monter(39 reps on the bench is phenomenal), and a top 10 guy. And then there is Sam Young. Everyone wanted him out of HS, and he was practically a supplemental draftee. There are too many players to get accurate evals on something like this, especially in an underpopulated, non-recruiting hotbed state like Iowa. Think Chad Greenway from the Dakotas. He is pretty good. As an NFL player.
 

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This is very true. I would start every year around 300 and by the time camp was over i was always around 290. Worst year was my junior year when I started camp at 301 and after the season was over is was at 273. But most years I would end up around 280 at the end of the season. My weight room strength would also drop drastically during the season, could normally maintain playing strength, but certain lifts in the weight room would start to drop off pretty fast during the season.

No matter how much I ate and lifted it was impossible to maintain weight during season.
Doesn't this pretty much happen with most players? Program weights are usually begining of the season
 

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If it makes you feel any better, Russell Okung had 1 BCS scholarship offer out of HS, and turned into a monter(39 reps on the bench is phenomenal), and a top 10 guy. And then there is Sam Young. Everyone wanted him out of HS, and he was practically a supplemental draftee. There are too many players to get accurate evals on something like this, especially in an underpopulated, non-recruiting hotbed state like Iowa. Think Chad Greenway from the Dakotas. He is pretty good. As an NFL player.

Not true. I remember ISU offering Okung. In fact, from Rivals, he had offers from ISU, LSU, ASU, Nebraska, ATM, TT in addition to Okie St. It's a good point regardless, though...just watch the NFL draft and you see a ton of players from small schools that were overlooked. I just was surprised that someone in the CIML was overlooked like that. Those games get a lot of publicity compared to small town football.
 

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Doesn't this pretty much happen with most players? Program weights are usually begining of the season

Yes, pretty much happens with everyone. You can pretty much plan on losing a certain percentage of body weight during the season it is just that with o and d lineman that percentage turns into a decent amount of weight because they weighed so much to begin with. The weight lost is a mixture of fat and muscle, some guys it is just muscle as there was no fat to begin with.

And yes program weights are normally a summer weight or a beginning of camp weight.
 

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Some great news out of that article on Cyclones.com. FYI, it is a great article, everyone should read it.


Jake McDonough is 289 right now, and Rump is at 290. That would be a couple legit interior defensive linemen. Yancy mentions that both kids are still only 19. Allot of potential in those two. Maybe this is why the staff hasn't been after as many D linemen as most of us thought they should have been.

Darks is up to 196. That's great news for our WR group. I see him as another RJ Sumrall.

Burris is 6'7", and 293. Yancy calls him our most athletic offensive lineman.

Lattimer and Neal have had some great gains, good news for the DE group. Parker is quickly returning to form.

Jake Knott sounds like he is going to be a beast. The strength of an interior lineman and the agility of a corner according to Yancy.

LJ and Benton look to both be in great shape, and O'Connell looks good as well. He mentioned that Washington at the safety spot is up to 207. That's some nice size at safety. Look like we are going to be very good and deep in the secondary.



Summer Football Strength and Conditioning Update No. 2 - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

That was a great article.

Rony Nelson and Rashawn Parker as bookends to Jake McDonough and Rumplehoemer looks like a rotation with some potential. More production up front would make a world of difference. I am very anxious to see Jake play this year.
 

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I like the DL size. Particularly with spread offenses. Back in the day of the power running game it was essential to have a big body to plug the middle. Now I think you need guys that can disrupt and and move a little better. Size is important for endurance but not as important as speed and the twitch. Unfortunately, look at the guys to the east of us. They have had good to great interior liine play for years and none of those guys have been huge. King, Kroul, Klug, etc were all in the 280 range. Those guys just disrupted with speed.

Of course if you can get speed and size great:wink:

Strength, don't forget strength. King & Kroul played very strong along with that great speed. I really think Jake has all the tools, just lacked a bit of size. Working vs Ossemlee and Alvarez will bring out his best. I'm anxious to see what he can do.
 

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Im not completly sure but didnt Knott originally want to play baseball after HS. He throws like 88-92 off the mound. Also ive seen the records at Waukee its true about his lifting stats.