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Stats show 42 rushing attempts by Hunter, and 14 of those were actually sacks, and I'd bet that another 10 (at least) were runs that were attempts to avoid a sack. Running on purpose hasn't happened enough, and I don't think we've had many designed rollouts that could shift the pocket for him and give him different opportunities and options. It has mostly been stay still while the pocket collapses, and then take off too late. I think we could buy him a second or two by moving the pocket from time to time.
Dekkers is a pretty terrible runner of the football, so I don't think we want him running a lot, but he needs be at least a threat to take off straight down the field when the opportunity presents itself.
 
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Dekkers is a pretty terrible runner of the football, so I don't think we want him running a lot, but he needs be at least a threat to take off straight down the field when the opportunity presents itself.
I've wondered all season if he wouldn't be a little better in the roll-out option since he's slow on the first step. Unfortunately I think we've run it like once all year and that was last week against KSU.
 

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Dekkers is a pretty terrible runner of the football, so I don't think we want him running a lot, but he needs be at least a threat to take off straight down the field when the opportunity presents itself.
I wouldn't say he is terrible. I think it's mainly timing (and blocking). Some of the called runs get met before the line of scrimmage, and a lot of them are scrambles where he takes off too late. I'd like to see just a few called draws, and then a little more awareness of the gaps that open in the rush. There have been a few sacks where he probably should have taken the opening that presented itself to run rather than hold on for that extra second.
 

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Looking at the video cuts of our OL, looks like they have not been spending enough time in the weight room. Which might explain the lack of push off the line (along with technique from Meyers). Texas DL will eat our OL lunch.
 
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I would say that is accurate. Also I dont think he has thrown a single one in 2 games. Not sure there has been a single route run of more than 10 yards, and few of even 10.

Which is why a lot are upset. Yes.
A single route? We completed a pass to Hanika for 25 yards with minimal YAC. Hutchinson dropped a TD that was more than 10 yards. It's in the playbook. We have to find the receivers and execute.
 

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I would say that is accurate. Also I dont think he has thrown a single one in 2 games. Not sure there has been a single route run of more than 10 yards, and few of even 10.

Which is why a lot are upset. Yes.

I get everybody is rightfully frustrated with the offense, but holy dumb hyperbole Batman.

Here’s the list of completions of more than 10 yards in the K State game:

38 yds to X
25 yds to Hanika
11 yds to Noel
12 yds to X
13 yds to X
12 yds to Shaw

And the Kansas game:

18 yds to Noel
15 yds to Noel
13 yds to X
53 yds to Stanley
15 yds to Dean
23 yds to X
11 yds to X
13 yds to Noel
11 yds to X

But sure, we haven’t run a single route past 10 yards in 2 games.
 

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I get everybody is rightfully frustrated with the offense, but holy dumb hyperbole Batman.

Here’s the list of completions of more than 10 yards in the K State game:

38 yds to X
25 yds to Hanika
11 yds to Noel
12 yds to X
13 yds to X
12 yds to Shaw

And the Kansas game:

18 yds to Noel
15 yds to Noel
13 yds to X
53 yds to Stanley
15 yds to Dean
23 yds to X
11 yds to X
13 yds to Noel
11 yds to X

But sure, we haven’t run a single route past 10 yards in 2 games.

Many of theses are short routes that break a tackle to get it into the 10-15 range. From what I could find. like 2 of them are actual routes deeper than 10 yards.

Hanikas was the only route that was outside and deep. Xs 38 yarder was poor tackling and should been about a 15 yarder.

Stanleys 53 was a scramble and not designed. X 23 yarder was a 15 yard crossing route.

So out of all those 2-3 were completed routes deeper than 10 yards. in 2 games. we should have 2-3 10+ completions a half. We barely have any incompleted passes that deep.
 

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I don't know if you are trying to be funny, ISU has used HD's running ability too much and it hasn't been pretty. Excellent video pointing out ISU's problems.
The designed QB runs haven't been pretty. Hunter does have some ability to tuck and run, but hasn't decided to do it a lot yet. There is quite often green in front of him when the pocket collapses.
 

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Many of theses are short routes that break a tackle to get it into the 10-15 range. From what I could find. like 2 of them are actual routes deeper than 10 yards.

Hanikas was the only route that was outside and deep. Xs 38 yarder was poor tackling and should been about a 15 yarder.

Stanleys 53 was a scramble and not designed. X 23 yarder was a 15 yard crossing route.

So out of all those 2-3 were completed routes deeper than 10 yards. in 2 games. we should have 2-3 10+ completions a half. We barely have any incompleted passes that deep.
You're wrong about Stanley's 53. It was a deep post. Dekkers steps up into the pocket and hits him, although slightly underthrown. He was able to find Stanley because he had good pocket awareness and bought Stanley enough time to finish the route.

We all agree we have to attempt more passes down the field. The post we were responding to said that we weren't running any routes past 10 yards, which was an exaggeration. We have routes. We're not finding the receivers/receivers aren't getting open.
 

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This video was impressive. This is data I've hoped would be put out of the premium membership here. This guy was honest, objective, consistently used data to back his opinions, and put together an awesome production. He was able to succinctly quantify many of observations of failure mentioned on this board. I hope @ChrisMWilliams can get this guy on one of the pods.
Yeah it's a good video. I live in Austin, talk shows all been really complementary of our defense and program overall. Offense, well not much can be said there.
 

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Dekkers is a pretty terrible runner of the football, so I don't think we want him running a lot, but he needs be at least a threat to take off straight down the field when the opportunity presents itself.

I think he's fast enough to slip through straight ahead to pick up a first down which should be priority #1.

Perhaps maybe to the edge in a race to the sideline marker.

Dedinitely not a scrambler.
 

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A single route? We completed a pass to Hanika for 25 yards with minimal YAC. Hutchinson dropped a TD that was more than 10 yards. It's in the playbook. We have to find the receivers and execute.
Oh so we ran 2, jeez sorry for the huge exaggeration. I'm sure you will throw a dumb on this too.

Frankly the first several games we were taking more shots down field the last few not so much, the last 2 almost none. It is like we miss one and we never try again. But yeah 1 or 2 out of 40+ pass plays counts right.
 
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I get everybody is rightfully frustrated with the offense, but holy dumb hyperbole Batman.

Here’s the list of completions of more than 10 yards in the K State game:

38 yds to X
25 yds to Hanika
11 yds to Noel
12 yds to X
13 yds to X
12 yds to Shaw

And the Kansas game:

18 yds to Noel
15 yds to Noel
13 yds to X
53 yds to Stanley
15 yds to Dean
23 yds to X
11 yds to X
13 yds to Noel
11 yds to X

But sure, we haven’t run a single route past 10 yards in 2 games.
You realize these count yards after catch right?
 
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You realize these count yards after catch right?

Absolutely. So you’re telling me every single one of these completions was caught short of 10 yards and then YAC accounts for everything else? I’d love to see your homework if that’s your assertion.
 

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A good roasting well earned. And it wasn't just opinion; it was based on a LOT of facts and percentages. Really highlights the loss of Purdy, Hall and Kolar - key players that have not been replaced.
Most of the things pointed out are exactly what has been covered here ad nauseum - too many short routes, lack of any vertical game, anemic pass-blocking, and no use of HD's running ability - the lack of creativity by the OC. Woof! Painful, but not unexpected by anyone who has been watching with their eyes open.
Loved the video analysis. Is Jay Jordan not breaking games down on the premium side? If he is I will pay to read it.

Regarding the vertical game, the video documented 2.4 seconds is what HD has. He's a sophomore QB facing some of the top defenses in the country with Iowa, Baylor and KSU. Hard for the guy to feel comfortable going long with that kind of pressure.
 

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Absolutely. So you’re telling me every single one of these completions was caught short of 10 yards and then YAC accounts for everything else? I’d love to see your homework if that’s your assertion.
Most of them yes. Hell most of the ones you quoted are just barely beyond 10, with only 2 or 3 each game getting beyond 15 yards. Without rewatching the games entirely to see exactly which of these were actually beyond 10 yard routes its safe to say many of these were not, as many times we gain a few yards after catch, frankly that is how we have gained a lot of our yards. Keep in mind the video quoted said we are #1 in completion % beyond 20 yards, but also last in attempts beyond 20 yards.

This is not a huge debate. Did I exaggerate when I said "none", maybe a little. I guess, what I should have said was "almost none" sorry I misspoke.
 

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Loved the video analysis. Is Jay Jordan not breaking games down on the premium side? If he is I will pay to read it.

Regarding the vertical game, the video documented 2.4 seconds is what HD has. He's a sophomore QB facing some of the top defenses in the country with Iowa, Baylor and KSU. Hard for the guy to feel comfortable going long with that kind of pressure.

Jay is doing an analysis/breakdown of every game for premium members.
 

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