***OFFICIAL: IOWA STATE vs. OSU GAME(DAY) THREAD!***
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We could have had the last possession, too. We missed that rebound.
Great game, Cyclones, way to make us proud!
Great game, Cyclones, way to make us proud!
I really think people saying that it would be dumb to foul aren't considering the situation.
25 seconds left. We have the choice to decide the game with our defense, or our offense. Which one would you prefer?
If you foul there is a chance they get zero or one point, but likely they get two. Now we have the ball with 25 second left with the opportunity to send it to OT with 2 or end the game with three. Remember also that two might win it if they miss one of those free throws. The options are win, OT, or lose. But WE decide the outcome and we are playing to our strengths.
If you don't foul they get to go for a buzzerbeater. Keep in mind that even if they miss we might get called for a foul trying to block it and send them to the line. The options are OT, or lose. By not fouling we do not give ourselves the opportunity to win the game in regulation. We only give ourselves the chance to lose. THEY decide the outcome and we are playing to our weaknesses.
The situation clearly favored fouling off their inbounds with :25 left. There is absolutely no question that would have been the better thing to do.
25 seconds left. We have the choice to decide the game with our defense, or our offense. Which one would you prefer?
If you foul there is a chance they get zero or one point, but likely they get two. Now we have the ball with 25 second left with the opportunity to send it to OT with 2 or end the game with three. Remember also that two might win it if they miss one of those free throws. The options are win, OT, or lose. But WE decide the outcome and we are playing to our strengths.
If you don't foul they get to go for a buzzerbeater. Keep in mind that even if they miss we might get called for a foul trying to block it and send them to the line. The options are OT, or lose. By not fouling we do not give ourselves the opportunity to win the game in regulation. We only give ourselves the chance to lose. THEY decide the outcome and we are playing to our weaknesses.
The situation clearly favored fouling off their inbounds with :25 left. There is absolutely no question that would have been the better thing to do.
I don't think there is a conspiracy but it's very frustrating to see blown calls go against ISU in close games at the end of the game over and over.
intentionally fouling when the game is tied is the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas. You don't give them two free shots with the game tied and on the line. Sometimes things just don't go your way. There is nothing Fred should have done differently strategically at the end. This loss doesn't need to be blamed on someone. We lost to a good team who hit big shots. We played with a ton of heart and I for one am proud of the way our guys fought back. They showed the same resolve they've shown all year.
We will be back.
We will be back.
I almost would preferred to have lost by 10. Tired of this crap. With the bracket we had we could have went to the final 4 with the way we were playing... And not by changing anything but having the rules applied correctly. It's a shame for a program like ISU.
Ug. Of course OSU would be complaining if the call went the other way....THAT IS THE WHOLE FREAKING POINT WHY WE LOSE CLOSE GAMES!!!! THE REFEREES HAVE A --YES, UNINTENTIONAL--BIAS TO NOT BLOW THE CALL IN A WAY TO ENDANGER THEIR CAREER. You blow a call against ISU now....no biggy, they are classy and will let it slide. You blow a call against OSU, Kansas, Michigan, basketball Kentucky, etc....and it is a career ender. That non-blocking call was MUCH more important than you minimalist understand. I am not a Charles Barkley fan, but he gets it. That was the game. That was the money moment when we all knew that it was over. Referees were not going to blow a close game in our favor. Duh..... If you want things to change, get mad. If you think just clapping and nodding is OK, then keep posting that referees don't impact a game in a negative way against us.
I don't believe you ever give the opponent a chance to win at the line. If fred had fouled and we lost, this board would be going crazy about the terrible decision.
CycloneErik
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Look, Greg Anthony, we all agree that it's a hard call, but those 2-3 points make a huge difference.
And so do missed layups and all. Arrrrgh.
And so do missed layups and all. Arrrrgh.
I don't agree or disagree... either way could have gone good or bad... its horrible predicament, I think maybe in that position I would've fouled craft based on his free throw shooting towards the end of that game... but not fouling wasn't a bad decision... and really, craft is an awful 3 point shooter, that's probably what we wanted... it totally sucks to lose, especially like that... but damn, there really is no right decision there...
I HATE this season being over. But Im tired of the same ****** refereeing calls all the time, so Im glad it over. No one, NO ONE on even ground could beat us this year if the boys were gaming.
Got the charge called against us versus Ohio State. Got he block called against us during Kansas. Seems kind of ridiculous, but the call today was definitely much less blatant than the one versus Kansas.
Grab the last rebound and we got the last shot instead of OSU and Craft. One rebound made just as big a difference as the call at the other end.
Grab the last rebound and we got the last shot instead of OSU and Craft. One rebound made just as big a difference as the call at the other end.
