Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon

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I'm just saying there is a clear physical advantage. That dude bench presses how much?

Would he not have had that same clear physical advantage on 90%+ of the student population. Definitely did not get punished sufficiently here, legally or by the university. I think the girl should also face assault charges. She did pay for her decision making by suffering a broken jaw and I'm sure she'll seek civil compensation. Her actions in my opinion, constitute assault. Just because you are weaker or a women doesn't mean you should be allowed to act as she did. His response was not proportional but a response was justified.
 

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Would he not have had that same clear physical advantage on 90%+ of the student population. Definitely did not get punished sufficiently here, legally or by the university. I think the girl should also face assault charges. She did pay for her decision making by suffering a broken jaw and I'm sure she'll seek civil compensation. Her actions in my opinion, constitute assault. Just because you are weaker or a women doesn't mean you should be allowed to act as she did. His response was not proportional but a response was justified.

Legally sure he can file an assualt charge. But at what point does a man stronger than 98% of humanity juat turn and walk away instead of hitting a woman in the face? The law and what's right aren't always the same thing.
 
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I'm probably 40% as strong as Mixon, that woman is probably 25% as strong.

Is it OK for me to go up to a black guy, call them the N word, and hit him? I mean of course that would make me a racist idiot, but is that fine? We can all just walk around hurling the N word and hitting people as long as we're physically weaker?

I'm totally fine with Mixon being punished for this and think he should be, but his punishment should be comparable or less than the person who started the altercation with racial slurs and violence. As I said before, I've gone my entire life without hurling racial slurs and attacking people in public, it's an incredibly easy thing to do and those who somehow can't need to be punished and reformed.

Well supposedly Mixon was harassing her gay friend outside, why was he dumb enough to come in and restart the incident. I certainly wasn't there and don't know everything but coming in to reinstigate the confrontation seems to be exhibiting poor judgment. Once he makes the pros this behavior will cost him millions.

HFCS replied to this before reading the posts where you and GTO hashed it out, did not mean for this to seem like piling on.
 
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Well supposedly Mixon was harassing her gay friend outside, why was he dumb enough to come in and restart the incident. I certainly wasn't there and don't know everything but coming in to reinstigate the confrontation seems to be exhibiting poor judgment. Once he makes the pros this behavior will cost him millions.

HFCS replied to this before reading the posts where you and GTO hashed it out, did not mean for this to seem like piling on.

It's OK, I was a moron and was talking about things without all the info. There are situations like I was talking about where people act irrationally like women are too weak and stupid to be responsible for their actions but this really doesn't look like one of them the more I learn. Listen first then talk, I should have known.
 
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Well supposedly Mixon was harassing her gay friend outside, why was he dumb enough to come in and restart the incident. I certainly wasn't there and don't know everything but coming in to reinstigate the confrontation seems to be exhibiting poor judgment. Once he makes the pros this behavior will cost him millions.

HFCS replied to this before reading the posts where you and GTO hashed it out, did not mean for this to seem like piling on.

It's OK, I was a moron and was talking about things without all the info. There are situations like I was talking about where people act irrationally like women are too weak and stupid to be responsible for their actions but this really doesn't look like one of them the more I learn. Listen first then talk, I should have known.

We're all cool, bros. Unfortunately, we'll probably never know 100% what really happened. The only things we have to go by is the video and the fact that Mixon re-entered that restaurant. It's definitely an interesting conversation as it relates to the men/women dynamic, but the only things that I think we can all agree for sure are that a) Mixon is a dbag and his mom should have raised him better than that and b) Stoops should have kicked him off the team when he watched the video over a year ago, but instead decided to keep him on scholarship and "redshirt" him.
 

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we'll never know 100% what happened outside the restaurant, but after watching the video it seems to me that Mixon was likely bullying her gay friend and she told him to f off... he followed them into the restaurant to continue bullying them, you see her friend shy away from the confrontation, and she becomes more agitated. Mixon looks to be the instigator in my opinion and i do not believe any of his side of the story.
 
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Legally sure he can file an assualt charge. But at what point does a man stronger than 98% of humanity juat turn and walk away instead of hitting a woman in the face? The law and what's right aren't always the same thing.

Her being able to hit people with no consequences is whats right?
 

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Mixon is their star player....
Well I'm an idiot, I'll leave it up. I assumed he was no longer on the team, which is why Stoops was saying he would have punished him more instead of just doing so. So considering I haven't really been following this, what's stopping him from kicking him off the team now, except that he wants to keep his star player? Or do you think he will kick him off the team now?
 

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Well I'm an idiot, I'll leave it up. I assumed he was no longer on the team, which is why Stoops was saying he would have punished him more instead of just doing so. So considering I haven't really been following this, what's stopping him from kicking him off the team now, except that he wants to keep his star player? Or do you think he will kick him off the team now?

I really hope there's enough PR backlash to force Stoops to kick him off the team. But he's skated by so far. We'll see what happens.
 

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I apologize as it seems I only got half the story. I still don't disagree with the stance that someone who starts a physical altercation while hurling racial slurs shouldn't be held accountable for whatever comes of it even if they're much physically weaker or a woman...but it sounds entirely possible that wasn't the case as I heard it was on ESPN.
This is gone a little weird to me, there is nothing someone says to someone that justifies violence. The slapping was out of line no matter what was said. And cold clocking someone for a slap was also out of line.
 
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Well I'm an idiot, I'll leave it up. I assumed he was no longer on the team, which is why Stoops was saying he would have punished him more instead of just doing so. So considering I haven't really been following this, what's stopping him from kicking him off the team now, except that he wants to keep his star player? Or do you think he will kick him off the team now?
My guess is instead of kicking him off the team Mixon will declare for the draft and decide he should sit out the bowl game to prepare for the draft. Of course I am real curious where he would go in the draft. I would think the NFL would want some distance between themselves and yet another violence against women issue.
 

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My guess is instead of kicking him off the team Mixon will declare for the draft and decide he should sit out the bowl game to prepare for the draft. Of course I am real curious where he would go in the draft. I would think the NFL would want some distance between themselves and yet another violence against women issue.

I trust you're not a Chiefs fan.

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Maybe it shouldn't amaze me in the era of video games, TV and internet surfing- but why did it take video to create this current uproar. We all knew he punched a girl. I don't think the published description from 2 years ago differed from the recent video.

The current criticism of Stoops also seems like Monday morning quarterbacking. Hitting a women is never acceptable. But Mixon was suspended a year. He was required to complete counselling. By all appearances he has been clean since the summer of 2014.

When Mixon was punished, that was before the Ray Rice video was released. It was before Greg Hardy. So Stoops is just being honest in his comments ealier this week that times have changed. People are demanding greater accountability and if Mixon did today, what he did in 2014- there is no doubt he would have been kicked off the team. Even without the video.

What I find interesting is all the disgust on national and local talk radio about the Mixon assault. While there is very little discussion of the Minnesota sexual assault. The Minnesoata sexual assault involved between 10-20 football players. Think about it, possibly 20% of he entire football roster were actively involved in the sexual assault. How many more were in the apartment that night aware what happened? How many more players received the video?

Mixon's assault was an angry reaction, where the duration of the confrontation and punch lasted seconds. The actions of the Minnesota football players was a conscience choice. They made multiple decisions over an extended period. Where is the anger by the media, sports fans and womens rights groups. Why are people not questioning the Gophers playing in the bowl game? Heck, why did the Holiday Bowl not withdraw their invite? Money matters to the Holiday Bowl, the Gophers, Big10, ESPN and the game's sponsors.