Otzelberger to Indiana?

[FinalFourCy]

Yeah, this is the frustrating reality of it for me. This is not what this was supposed to be. They were supposed to be able to monetize there fame. This should have been things like Olivia Dunne being able to monetize her social media following as an influencer, or someone recognizable like Caitlyn Clark snagging a State Farm TV campaign deal.

This was never supposed to be hey fans, you need to pony up $150k next year to retain our free safety, because Missisppi State is going to offer them $200k+ and they may jump at it. That isn't name, image, and likeness. Most of these players aren't even recognizable to their own fanbase, let alone nationally. Their name and image is worth a fraction of what they are now receiving in "NIL".

Okay, so it’s mislabeled.

Calling it a salary doesn’t change anything

The days of free labor are over. The market is there for these players to make more than we can afford

Hopefully a salary cap helps some, but until there is employment and a collective bargaining agreement, shutting down NIL will be very difficult

My hope is that enough historical powers see that by making this a player salary spending race, they’ve marginalized their more exclusive advantages of history, location, etc

 

[ForeverIowan]

I think TJ understands we are never going to be at the top of the pack in NIL.

Build a top 5 caliber roster and national title contender but not able to throw the cherry on the top with a top 10 portal addition? Ok...it is what it is.

Build a top 5 caliber roster and national title contender and lose a key piece or two due to lack of NIL funds. Inexcuseable. That is when you will lose an elite coach.

 

[FinalFourCy]

I think TJ understands we are never going to be at the top of the pack in NIL.

Build a top 5 caliber roster and national title contender but not able to throw the cherry on the top with a top 10 portal addition? Ok...it is what it is.

Build a top 5 caliber roster and national title contender and lose a key piece or two due to lack of NIL funds. Inexcuseable. That is when you will lose an elite coach.

Then again, it’s rare to not lose a good player, regardless.

Arizona, Bama, Auburn, Duke, Illinois etc all lost at least one major contributor off very good teams.

The difference is that they stand a chance to buy a replacement in this annual free agency. Whereas we have to hope we find an overlooked guy, and that the player’s price doesn’t spike the moment we offer

 

[ForeverIowan]

As a fundraising idea, I think it would really help to let the fanbase and alumni in the heads of TJ and the coaching staff, as much as possible. Tell us what they are after in the portal. Get us more excited to contribute towards a goal of a specific type of player.

For example, next year, I assume theyll be after an elite guard to replace Gilbert (perhaps Jones as well). Make it known! Hey fanbase, you want us going big game hunting for a top 5 off ball guard in the portal? We need $XXX,XXX amount to make that a possibility. Here is the specific spot to contribute for that guy.

Im spitballing here but letting a fan feel like they have more inside info could only help...

 

[CycloneBamaFan]

Not going to happen. Pay TJ his money. The Cyclones need to make it happen and keep this going.

 

[MTCyclone43]

I think we have witnessed some teams with big NIL budgets flounder this season. I like and believe in what TJ and Company are doing with their roster build outs. TJ's "Cyclone Culture" is getting it done. Think about it, Iowa State was down it's top 2 scorers and this team was vying for the victory against the #5 team in the country.

 

[brentblum]

As a fundraising idea, I think it would really help to let the fanbase and alumni in the heads of TJ and the coaching staff, as much as possible. Tell us what they are after in the portal. Get us more excited to contribute towards a goal of a specific type of player.

For example, next year, I assume theyll be after an elite guard to replace Gilbert (perhaps Jones as well). Make it known! Hey fanbase, you want us going big game hunting for a top 5 off ball guard in the portal? We need $XXX,XXX amount to make that a possibility. Here is the specific spot to contribute for that guy.

Im spitballing here but letting a fan feel like they have more inside info could only help...

Thanks to this exact reason, we just got a commitment from a donor to match all funds raised up to $200,000 from now until the end of March. This will go for this exact cause. Priority #1 is keep the nucleus together, priority #2 is replace those that are out of eligibility with a portal addition or two. Please share with your friends! Wewillcollective.com

 

[cytor]

Thanks to this exact reason, we just got a commitment from a donor to match all funds raised up to $200,000 from now until the end of March. This will go for this exact cause. Priority #1 is keep the nucleus together, priority #2 is replace those that are out of eligibility with a portal addition or two. Please share with your friends! Wewillcollective.com

Still tax deductible?

 

[brentblum]

Still tax deductible?

Yes

 

[ForeverIowan]

Thanks to this exact reason, we just got a commitment from a donor to match all funds raised up to $200,000 from now until the end of March. This will go for this exact cause. Priority #1 is keep the nucleus together, priority #2 is replace those that are out of eligibility with a portal addition or two. Please share with your friends! Wewillcollective.com

That is great news! I just think fans would get FAR more fired up to donate if they have more insight into the direct impact of their dontation.

Is it even allowed to link your donation to a specific recruit? I mean there are no freaking rules, right?

I go back about ten or so years to the Rashad Vaughn recruitment. This fanbase was freaking obsessed with that kid. I can't imagine the amount of $ that would have been raised for his signature. I genuinely think this fanbase, at that time, would have put together well north of a million in a matter of months.

I know a lot more goes into that thought process. Hard to pay seniors Tamin Lipsey and Justin Jefferson far less if they know the fanbase just put together a million+ for a sought after transfer/recruit.

 

[brentblum]

That is great news! I just think fans would get FAR more fired up to donate if they have more insight into the direct impact of their dontation.

Is it even allowed to link your donation to a specific recruit? I mean there are no freaking rules, right?

I go back about ten or so years to the Rashad Vaughn recruitment. This fanbase was freaking obsessed with that kid. I can't imagine the amount of $ that would have been raised for his signature. I genuinely think this fanbase, at that time, would have put together well north of a million in a matter of months.

I know a lot more goes into that thought process. Hard to pay seniors Tamin Lipsey and Justin Jefferson far less if they know the fanbase just put together a million+ for a sought after transfer/recruit.

Great perspective. Two things. The staff is really good at this and identifies players that fit what they are looking for and any dollars raised gives them more ability to close the deal.

If you want to support a specific athlete, go to fanstake.com and you can directly invest in a specific player. Use the word CYCLONE for a free $25 to use. Showing love to the current players has already been very helpful in that space.

 

[cyfanbr]

Thanks to this exact reason, we just got a commitment from a donor to match all funds raised up to $200,000 from now until the end of March. This will go for this exact cause. Priority #1 is keep the nucleus together, priority #2 is replace those that are out of eligibility with a portal addition or two. Please share with your friends! Wewillcollective.com

Did all donations from today count by chance? Otherwise I’ll have to wait until the next time my kid runs off the couch again or does something else formidable like that.

 

[brentblum]

Did all donations from today count by chance? Otherwise I’ll have to wait until the next time my kid runs off the couch again or does something else formidable like that.

Yep! Thank you!

 

[caulkasian]

As a fundraising idea, I think it would really help to let the fanbase and alumni in the heads of TJ and the coaching staff, as much as possible. Tell us what they are after in the portal. Get us more excited to contribute towards a goal of a specific type of player.

For example, next year, I assume theyll be after an elite guard to replace Gilbert (perhaps Jones as well). Make it known! Hey fanbase, you want us going big game hunting for a top 5 off ball guard in the portal? We need $XXX,XXX amount to make that a possibility. Here is the specific spot to contribute for that guy.

Im spitballing here but letting a fan feel like they have more inside info could only help...

I feel like that would hurt team chemistry more than it would help. Say someone signed for $$. For coach to go out and say some other player is more valuable / more critical to the team's success ... How is that person gonna stay all in on the team? Keeping everyone bought-in / together is one of the strengths of this roster.

 

[t-noah]

Everytime I tune into an IU game, I am reminded how weird Assembly Hall is.

It's like an underground tunnel, into a bunker, onto a bb floor. Is that fairly accurate?

 

[JP4CY]

It's like an underground tunnel, into a bunker, onto a bb floor. Is that fairly accurate?

Just so weird. I feel like the upper deck would feel so far away.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Can I add to the title "... to catch a Haliburton game"? He aint leaving, especially for Indiana. They're basketball's version of the Nebraska football program, almost exactly.

Only thing I’d say is that Indiana could much more easily return to prominence in Big10 bball than Nebraska could in fb.

All it would take is a could *like* TJ and a few e8/f4s.

 

[qwerty]

I'm hearing Otz to Iowa State. Can anyone confirm?

Alison replacing BF?

You don't even have to change the nickname much . . . . Aus instead of Otz.

 

[VeloClone]

We are currently not competitive enough with the big dogs so I guess we hope for the best! Would you take $400k less per year for your job?

No, but I'm not really in a position where I can pay an employer almost $300k to work for them.

 

[qwerty]

Indiana would just pull the chair out from under him.