Plus there was a certain Olympic gymnastic doctor that Michigan state kept employed and protected, as well as Izzo pulling a ferentz and protecting rapists on his team.
Perspective from the Big Ten and some much needed clarifications
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Plus there was a certain Olympic gymnastic doctor that Michigan state kept employed and protected, as well as Izzo pulling a ferentz and protecting rapists on his team.
That is 100% part of the reason why he left, I was pretty surprised when not a lot came from it leagally. Years before that though teams had figured out his defense and his offence was really really bad. In 3 of his last four years he went 7/6, 7/6 and 3/9. He was a downfall before all that stuff was being talked about.
Trust me you will never hear me defending any of that stuff. I personally know nassar survivors and while i'm not particularly religious i hope there is a hell that he burns in.
Yeah, I left that out. And that (fallout) was going on at the same time as the Dantonio mess. Dantonio's a complete scumbag. I have faith that CMC would never go down a path like that to win games.
Well to be fair Izzo's had some issues with his players too - but of course he's a god in East Lansing...
Very true, also alot of guys after they left the program did some really awful **** too
Didn't some of MSU's problems with the football team(in terms of performance) come from Dantonio not replacing people like Narduzzi with nearly as good of people? It's hard to replace good assistants.
Yeah he had his guys that he never fired no matter how bad things got and he never hired outside talent. Only promoted from within, was like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic the last few years. Went from the playoffs to completely irrelevant in 5/6 years
Very sad what's happened to MSU hockey. Used to be a power under Ron Mason. Then he went upstairs to be athletic director and things went to pot.
I am shocked by the amount of big ten fans not wanting to add the big 12 schools. We have some quality teams and Fandoms up for grabs.. you'd think they would want those things after adding Maryland and Rutgers who lack both of those things.
Welp, good luck with that, I think they'll regret it.
Welp, good luck with that, I think they'll regret it.
I actually like this idea for a conference. I'm still not buying the B1G being seriously interested in poaching the PAC12 (or that if they did, they'd take 6), but if that happened, that's not a bad fall back at all.
Honestly the only big 12 school most fans would want is ISU. No one else in the big 12 is a very good fit except for kansas and they are in a rough position athletics wise. There are obv concerns about how much ISU would add but if the league goes up to 20 I could see a potential invite especially if this plays out for a few more years and you continue to be a top 25 program.
ISU would be 8th in the B1G in attendance, using 2019 numbers.
What other numbers would they be looking at? TV revenue doesn't really tell you much. Alamo Bowl ratings? Fiesta Bowl ratings?
What other numbers would they be looking at? TV revenue doesn't really tell you much. Alamo Bowl ratings? Fiesta Bowl ratings?
Alumni Size, TV ratings, TV market are all the numbers they care about when negotiating a media rights deal. I know it goes contrary to what a lot of people on this page talk about but I have never once heard of in game attendance numbers mattering at all in picking teams to expand.
It does matter. Look at Kansas. They have a glorified high school stadium and no one goes to it. Any conference will want to see them invest in that stadium. Attendance is a strong indicator of a healthy program. Iowa State literally takes over towns with visiting fans. Ask Kansas City, San Antonio, Las Vegas. We can visually show seas of cardinal and gold fans flooding to the Clones. That matters.
Yeah, one of my concerns (not to sound too much like a homer) is ISU passes muster with the B1G (even if just by the hair of the chinny-chin-chin). But KU, while geographically fine and academically fine doesn't meet the standard for athletics, since football is really all that counts by most measures. So ISU gets left out because we don't have a dance partner that's good enough....
Nope Northwestern students don't even have to pay for tickets they just hope people show up because frankly its right next to chicago and lake michigan so if the team isn't doing well there are a million other activities to do.
Thats why game attendance doesn't matter. A large number of people don't want to spend hundreds of dollars in tickets, hours stuck in traffic just to be in cramped seats especially if their team is just average. But what those fans do is watch the games on TV which again is what is important when negotiating a media deal.
