Some coaches do decide to stay for whatever reason. Izzo, coach K, calipari, all have had NBA offers and turned them down. Same for a number of college coaches. It could happen
Perspective from the Big Ten and some much needed clarifications
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It was mentioned on here multiple times that Hoiberg's contract had virtually no buyout if he went to the NBA. It shouldn't have been a shock to anyone when he left. I'm sure the thought process from JP was that I'll give him that out because that means he's achieved success we can build from. Unfortunately it didn't play out that way.
There has been zero chatter on here that CMC has similar buyout terms or aspirations.
Big time programs will write a check for that buyout in 2 seconds. These are the same schools that fire coaches every 3 years and continue to pay the fired guy 3 million a year. It's not an issue for schools like Ohio State to buy out a contract. ISU will make a lot of money off it for sure. His buyout isn't like Jimbo Fisher's at 70 million.
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No doubt that big schools can afford the buyout. My point was you used Hoiberg as a comparison and I don't think that's relevant. It was known he wanted to end up in the NBA and even had his contract written in such a way to make it easier for that to happen.
Having said that I'm not naive enough to think CMC will stay around if we end up in a conference where he can't legitimately compete for national championships. The expanded playoffs may need to occur depending on where we end up.
Campbell isn't looking to jump in the same way somebody like Lane Kiffin does every year but if like Franklin leaves Penn State and they want CMC he's gone. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Just because he turned down a horrible NFL job doesn't mean squat to me. He can wait for a better job to open.
Who said college? I said he stuck around when he got offers. Oh, and CMC was supposedly offered Detroit and Cleveland in the NFL. (And stayed at ISU.) The pros. Like Hoiberg longed for.
Detroit never offered Campbell. That was proven false. There was smoke or some mention of the Jets wanting him though.
Colorado is below Iowa State in every metric, including TV ratings. Might be a new state but, they don't watch CU in Colorado, they watch the Bronco's the tv ratings show it.
Half of the fanbase didn't even want to fire Paul Rhoads because they thought he was doing a good job. Sorry I'm realistic.
No, actually I don't. Every single person that was honest with themselves when the hire was made knew Hoiberg was going back to the NBA at some point. And it's really easy to figure out who the ones that weren't honest with themselves because they're the ones that 5 years later are still saying "omygawd Hoiberg betrayed ISU by going back to the NBA."
Meanwhile, 5 years later, Campbell has refused interview after interview from big name colleges and NFL teams. And while I still think Campbell will leave one day, at some point you just have to take a man for his word.
My a$$. Go back and look at the message boards. He was going to retire here. Even when the first rumors leaked about him possibly taking that job people were still in denial. People were doing the usual, saying that ISU was a bigger job than the Chicago Bulls.
Except, CMC doesn't say he is going to be here forever. He keeps saying he is here to Do Something. To different things.
The flower beds inside the stadium would put it lightyears above catching a game in Lawrence.
Thank you.
The problem we as ISU fans seem to be having is that we are projecting what WE would do if in charge and inviting teams to various conferences. Espousing all sorts of reasons why it makes sense. I don't believe some things make sense on many levels, but for starters:
1. BIG does not need to expand just to keep up with the SEC anytime soon. They just don't.
2. It's an optics thing with BIG fans... maybe not administrators, but fans for sure. SEC adds OU and UT, BIG adds ISU and KU to counter? Not gonna happen. Admins do pay attention to stuff like this especially considering point 1.
Those are just my opinions. I would hope that ISU would be groveling and accepting a much reduced TV share from the BIG, but I seriously doubt it has even reached that point with us.
BIG doesn't need to act anytime soon.
PAC? I'd accept an invite tomorrow if offered. They are probably feeling the "talk" regarding the BIG poaching teams. But then again, the PAC saying to USC or Oregon, "look, we'll add ISU, OSU, TTU, and KU if you stay". Shrug?
Again, just my opinion. Sorry so negative, but i'm kind of in the "acceptance" stage,
No, actually, it’s message board talk which has nothing to do with reality.
but it is also that certain people are dedicating themselves to taking everyone how worthless Iowa State truly is. Unless you think no one in the Phoenix area even knew the fiesta bowl was happening, and that no one watches Iowa State sports too.
but Missouri is amazing with their achievements
There was a decades long perspective that the Big Ten was Ohio State and Michigan and everyone else.
Now it's Ohio State and everyone else.
I'm just not sure about the "they can just chill and let the SEC do whatever" take.
Now it's Ohio State and everyone else.
I'm just not sure about the "they can just chill and let the SEC do whatever" take.
