Their opinion should not matter in the least, especially based on his tough guy comments.
Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake
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Their opinion should not matter in the least, especially based on his tough guy comments.
I don't understand where you are getting the bolded part. The only person saying that is RossHallHero. Nothing from McDermott, the press, ISU or people with inside information have said that.
In my opinion, you are as far off base here as you could possibly be.
Time will tell if lifting the suspension was a mistake.
If Colvin has more discipline issues Mac will have no
choice but to dismiss him and Mac's fate will be sealed.
If Colvin has more discipline issues Mac will have no
choice but to dismiss him and Mac's fate will be sealed.
Why? Colvin walked out on them too. You have literally no idea what you are talking about, or frankly how team dynamics should function.
The coach is the ultimate authority and should not need to check with them to make sure what he wants to do is ok.
I don't think it's any surprise that this team lacks leadership, do you?
It's also no surprise they couldn't police their own due to that lack of leadership.
--Where'd you learn to have no spine and not honor your words?
--I learned it from you, coach. I learned it from you.
I don't think it is ever a good idea to go back on what you said and on a situation you created. Bad move Mac. bad move. Do what you say and say what you do. Keep your convictions. It was a fail to play the kid. Why should anyone respect him at this point.
Real leaders get input from all sources before making a decisions.
You are just spinning facts to fit your dislike of McDermott and you should just stop now, you've made yourself look foolish enough for one day.
Do real leaders go back on their very specific and self congratulatory words, too?
I will await your response. Thanks.
:notworthy: Yes I agree. But you have to keep in mind this is a coach who held a meeting specifically to let the players express their feelings. Nice leadership - let's just let the players decided.
Couldnt agree more! Isnt that why Morgan got fired because people complaining that the "inmates" were running the team?!
Yes, happens all the time. At least for those of us in real world.
Not playing Colvin was punishing the team. As long as mac and team feel like amends have been made to them it's their choice.
Well, at least the 2nd time anyways, right? His 'more input' happens to just fit into what you want, which is to win at all costs. Having someone go back on his decision is one thing, to have the fortitude to spin it as anything else is irresponsible and shows coaches lack of respect for the fans intelligence. Either he's right, or he's not. So, is he a hypocrite or are we all just dumb enough to buy this?
Back tracking on the punishment laid out there is no difference.
I believe the difference lies in the reasons the punishment was handed out in the first place. If Colvin punched a player after a game on the court (exclusion would be a Iowa player) and knocked him out and then had to be restrained/escorted off of the court, I would disagree with lifting the suspension.
The Oregon situation was #1 a crime being committed. #2 was a national headline story. #3 involved people outside of the Oregon team and coaches.
Colvin's issue was within the team only. I am sure there are other times where players have disrespected their fellow teammates and coaches and we never hear about it as it is handled internally. What Colvin did was wrong. Was it a crime? No. Did it affect anyone outside of the team/coaches? No.
When the punishment was handed down, Mac based the supsension on the current situation of the team. Things changed and Mac reassessed the punishment based on the overall team needs. If he truly involved the player and coaches in the decision to shorten the suspension and everyone is in agreement, good for them. I would feel the same way if they decided not to lift the supension.
At the end of the day, Colvin did not commit a criminal act. He acted like a child and sat in time out for 2 weeks. During the 2 weeks it appears on all accounts his attitude changed. Players and coaches were in agreement to rescind his suspension and at the end of the day they are the ones who were impacted by Colvin's actions. Not any of us message board posters.
One gauge of how the decision impacts the univeristy - Is anyone in the national media (not local) talking about the decision to rescind the suspension? I believe not because nobody cares since it is an internal issue. Again no crime was committed by Colvin.
I wonder if there's a disconnect between those of us who have played sports and those who haven't.
The team CAN suffer due to the actions of one player.
I wonder if Mac checked with the players on his initial punishment.
That affected them, too.
I'm not a hater by any means, I'd bear his children with the proper surgery, counseling, uterus, promise to start winning and wife-support, but you are wrong about him being punished. He served 'A' punishment, but not his coaches punishment. It's too bad he's not the man we all hoped he was but feared he may be.
You know I feel the same way...kinda.
Except that in my case I get to see some of the same people who love to take shots at Ferentz for lack of integrity now defend Mac.
It's amazing how the name on the front of the uniform can change an opinion.
You should read the thread. I'm almost positive kg-cyclone addressed this.
Well would you look at that:
