Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

FriendlySpartan

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I think the point is All these major players in both the Big 10 and SEC will be pushing for the same thing in the future. Meaning they will play off each other for leverage.

This is not going to happen this round. But possible in future round.
Anything of course could happen. But I just don't see unequal revenue sharing every happening. It has only happened once and almost led to the death of a conference. No group is going to get behind that and OSU has been in the same conference for over a century and it has never been brought up once.
 

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OK nothing I will say will convince you but no one outside of big12 territory thinks like that. You're reacting as if your GF left you for a richer guy so you just automatically assume that every other girl you are with will do the same. I will concede that anything could happen but you also have to admit that your past dealing with how the Big12 was managed is shaping these beliefs more then the reality of what might occur.
So you are saying it is not happening right now as well in the Pac? You act like none of these people care about money.
 

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So just to be clear you think that OSU who will already be making more money then the SEC teams, will throw a fit to make more, then pack up and leave and go to the SEC who also doesn't have unequal sharing to demand unequal sharing there? That's a giant leap in logic.
No, I dont think they go to the SEC. I think they do the scenerio I just posted where they say screw everyone else and bail with the other big money teams so they can make more with the big SEC teams and not share with the lower teams in the Big 10 anymore.
 

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So help me understand how exactly this would work. OSU, Mich, USC, PSU, Bama, GA, TX, and OU go off to form their own superleague. Then in the regular season, they all play each other? Then at the end of the regular season when two of them have emerged as the two best for that season, they play in a superleague title game?
Did I say they wont play anyone else? Does Iowa not play a Non con now? Not Play any G5? Not any FCS? Never any Bowl games?

Are you purposely being this dense?
 

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Did I say they wont play anyone else? Does Iowa not play a Non con now? Not Play any G5? Not any FCS? Never any Bowl games?

Are you purposely being this dense?
Ok sure but they're still all going to play each other right? They'd all be in the same superleague. Are you saying a superleague of 10 isn't going to include a round robin regular season league schedule?
 

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Not exactly sure.
Texas situation is so weird. They didn't need the money for them it was a perception problem that the big12 was a weak or lesser conference which part of the reason for that perception was the fact that texas has been very bad. You could argue that they left for stability reasons but they were a huge cause of the instability so who knows with them.
Which shows teams will do things that don’t necessarily make sense to people. OU was about 5MM behind Texas, around 9-10MM on tier 3s I was thinking, was making the playoffs on a regular basis and they left also.
 

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Texas situation is so weird. They didn't need the money for them it was a perception problem that the big12 was a weak or lesser conference which part of the reason for that perception was the fact that texas has been very bad. You could argue that they left for stability reasons but they were a huge cause of the instability so who knows with them.
Texas thinks everyone is below them. In everything. Not just the Big 12. The state thinks every other state is below them. They have an ego problem.

But UT believes everyone is below them. Every school, it will be the same in the SEC. It was the same in the SWC.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Anything of course could happen. But I just don't see unequal revenue sharing every happening. It has only happened once and almost led to the death of a conference. No group is going to get behind that and OSU has been in the same conference for over a century and it has never been brought up once.
You say only once, to clarify, only once in the power conferences you mean, correct?
 

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No, I dont think they go to the SEC. I think they do the scenerio I just posted where they say screw everyone else and bail with the other big money teams so they can make more with the big SEC teams and not share with the lower teams in the Big 10 anymore.

Never say never in realignment. Regimes and leadership come and go. New leaders have different ideas than the previous administrations.
Deloss Dodds openly made fun of the SEC before his retirement.
Notre Dames Leadership tried twice to get into the Big 10 before WW2 and were rebuffed twice by the conference.
 

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Anything of course could happen. But I just don't see unequal revenue sharing every happening. It has only happened once and almost led to the death of a conference. No group is going to get behind that and OSU has been in the same conference for over a century and it has never been brought up once.
The funny thing is, is how blind you guys in the Big 10 are to think that OSU is any different than UT. They just trademarked "the" for christ sakes.

OSU is Texas with a Nut mascot.
 
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The B10 is already floating the idea that if Oregon, Washington and a few other schools can come up to the conference and receive less money than the other schools will.

When both the SEC and B10 are throwing out numbers of $100 million or more per school, and to get into the league you have to bring in that number, the only school out there left then is ND, that can do that.

This round of expansion is almost over, ND is going to stay independent, and the ACC is going to be intact, at least for now. The only question to still be answered is what the 4 corner schools are going to do, and that would come down to how much money the P12 schools are going to get compared to if they joined the B12. If they stay in the P12, then everything stops, if they jump, then the pressure is then on Oregon, Washington and Stanford, on what to do next.
 
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The funny thing is, is how blind you guys in the Big 10 are to think that OSU is any different than UT. They just trademarked "the" for christ sakes.

OSU is Texas with a Nut mascot.
OSU has been in the big ten for over a century and hasn't ever caused any problems or done things to rock the boat. Texas has been causing **** for years. Huge difference that again you cant see because of your past experience with them so you just assume everyone like them conducts themselves the same way.
 

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To the two Big 10 fans in here or any that might show up later, I really want to know your perspectives as to why you think the tops of the P2 wouldn't do what we're saying they will. The only common factor through all of realingment so far has been the pursuit of money. Why would Ohio State suddenly be like "Ok. we have enough money now, time to stop" when there's more obvious angles for them to make money, namely either asking for unequal revenue or doing what's happening/happened/about to happen to the rest of the P5 conferences and leave them in the dust to make even more money. What motivation do they have to keep making the same money as Northwestern when NW doesn't bring bring anything in and OSU are the biggest money makers in the league. Same for the SEC. If someone gets in their ear and says "hey, if you want more money leave the lucky to be there teams behind. We're telling the SEC powers the same thing. You'll make more money if you both ditch the losers and join this new thing we're doing." Why would they say no? The sanctity of the game hasn't matter yet so why would it now? Winning not being sustainable for everyone hasn't either so why would it now?

If there's an angle you guys know that we don't please share. Obviously it's not happening right now, that's not what i'm getting at. But what's stopping the pursuit of money all of a sudden?