Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Pretty sure you can look at the demographics and get why those conferences made those decisions. I'm not getting political on this so I will leave it at that. All i will say is I asked you to prove your point about OSU running the conference and you cant. Are they the undisputed best team in football absolutely but they don't run a conference.
All it takes is one guy who gets in that position to make a move. If Ohio State can make more money doing something other than B1G, I wouldn't get my hopes up that they would stay (see Nebraska, Texas, OU, USC, etc.)
Is Nebraska going to be in this league? Does Alabama get booted after Saban retires?
This one super league break away just isn’t happening. How mad will ESPN be when most of the US continues to watch their own teams, which makes up most of college football rather than the select few super league teams who just beat up on each other, and don’t seem as elite anymore?
I don't know for sure if they did, cant find anything that says they didn't I just know it was discussed.
Addressing the Big 12 point quick before I get into the rest, I do agree there's a perception issue. People are arguing the Pac 12 is stealing our teams even though like you said, they are a total dumpster fire of people stuck in the 80s mentally. My hope for Yormark is that he knows that and pursues the gaps in the market that the SEC and Big 10 don't' have covered, like finding the best money and culture fits, getting the most rivalries into the conference as possible, and finding outside the box but not stupid media deals to lessen the gap as much as possible. Eventually I think there will be an SEC fatigue that sets in and the Big 10 ignoring the culture aspects in their realingment moves makes me think theres a really good shot for us to sneak in as the fun old fashioned hate conference while also implementing new media, marketing, and scheduling ideas to actually feel like the "hip and cool" conference. We'll always be 3rd at best in money but maybe we can get ourselves viewed into a P3 with the right moves even if financially we're never that.
For the main parts, that is a good point. There has been issues in both of those conferences for a while so it was more of a when not if. I just can't see the pursuit of money ending either though. Every realignment move so far has had money as the driving factor and the chance to say, ok we have enough now, has came and gone constantly. Maybe something else happens, I don't know and we're talking about something that's not happening until the 2030s or 2040s or so anyhow. I don't believe that Ohio State values Northwestern or Alabama values South Carolina enough to turn down leaving them behind to go make possibly billions of dollars to join with the other major teams from the opposite conference.
On the point of nobody being left behind, it is kinda funny that there's only 1 team who has actually been left behind in all of this, which is USF not finding a major conference after the Big East/AAC split. Now that Cincy is heading to the Big 12 everyone else got back into the power conferences somehow. Doubt there's anything to that but weird how it worked out
So three teams that left the big 12 and a team that left a burning building. Not a great sample size there my man. Again I get that everyone on here has been burned so you see it everywhere you look but that's not how the SEC or Big Ten operate.
I am pretty sure they did (not positive) and hearing that the larger stadium teams didn’t feel it was right that they had to give their earnings to the other teams that didn’t draw as well.
Does that sound like a dovetail to something else?
Valid points all of them. Also to your point in the 2030's or 2040's who knows. If you went back 10-20 years ago no one would have thought all this was possible.
Gene gets everything he’s wanted, especially when delaney was in charge. There is a reason Nebraska is always belly-aching and not OSU or Michigan.
I'm not sure if it is still in place or not. Personally I think its apples and oranges but I know the narrative you are trying to go with so I know we will disagree.
This is what people have been saying about the B1G and SEC poaching the top teams from other conferences for years, but they still continue to do it. Someone still has to lose etc.
If this league forms some day, who knows who all is in and who is out. But it can and would be used as leverage for the big brands for unequal revenue to stay in said conferences, and least for the time being.
But again in said super league, we all know its terrible for the sport, but so has pretty much every move made over the last 40 years. They dont care, if it makes more money.
say they take 24 teams, it would basically be 2 divisions or 3, or even 4. then those teams would probably also still play non cons and lower leagues, just as we play non cons and G5s and FCS today.
Then at the end of the year they would have a playoff and a champ. Just like in the NFL or similar.
It is not that difficult.
Again, the next round this could be a threat just to get uneven revenue. Then the following it could actually happen. Who knows.
Yep and you or anyone else can feel free to point out what big change happened to help them out, ive asked multiple people and no one has anything. Nebraska complains because that is what they were used to doing in the big 12. The big ten told them to go sit in the corner and that's where they have been since.
How is it narrative and not just talking about what happened?
A lot of this discussion comes down to how long gene smith is around, how much he can be trusted, and who his successor will be. I can answer one of them but not the other two. You are plugging your ears when we answer the one we know.
I think it's naive to think that everyone's great pals in the B1G and it will work out forever. Like they have some kind of superior alliance over any other conference.
Most of these teams operate and create allies on mutual interest. If Ohio State can make more money doing something else, and can preserve what they value (like the Michigan game), I believe they would cut a Purdue/Northwestern/Rutgers/Maryland/etc. out no-questions-asked.
Well we don't even know it happened for one, I cant find a single thing about it stopping even though I thought it had.
You could very well be correct but the rest of the conference wouldn't agree and that is the differnce between the way the big ten runs things vs the way the old big 12 just gave certain teams whatever they wanted and why everyone on here seems to think thats the way it works.
