Because when your conference is raided and you're left holding that bag you have to be named after a ****** western.Why are they ‘magnificent’ and we were ‘Hateful’
Because when your conference is raided and you're left holding that bag you have to be named after a ****** western.Why are they ‘magnificent’ and we were ‘Hateful’
If you are a Pac 12 team not named Cal, Washington State, or Oregon State you better be getting your ass on the phones and do it now.
It might be the difference between getting in the top 3 or being stuck in a zombie PAC or ACC for a while or forever
All about controlling the narrative and pushing the agenda.Why are they ‘magnificent’ and we were ‘Hateful’
Because we're the leftovers and they are the runaways.Why are they ‘magnificent’ and we were ‘Hateful’
Agreed, but not always a guarantee. Lots of ditry laundry gets aired in a public court battle. Both sides would want to avoid that.Voting to disband then jumping would be met with lawsuits and probably voiding the previous vote, by those voting against it.
That would be met with deep investigations, and collusion charges. No way anyone votes to disband without a negotiated place to go, and no way they can legally have a vote like this while keeping their plan secret.
We will see. Without a court precedent being set on a GOR, it is unknown which way it would go.Very good chance they will be held to negotiating in bad faith and any chance to kill the GoR will then be impossible, and the schools left behind will get their media money for the rest of the GoR.
No one is going to do that with so much risk. It would need to be done on the up and up, otherwise at this point there is just too much risk.
Cool.Bingo.. you just proved yourself wrong, they could lose out by staying in the ACC, but they could lose a huge amount more by trying to lie their way out.
I guess we will never know until someone tries. Sure looks like we will get to find out here in the next few years.Because if they lose the multiple lawsuits that will come their way if they deceive the conference in leaving/disbanding, it will cost them 100s of Millions, not just in penalties but also still lose their media income for 10+ years to the schools remaining. So all the income from the SEC or B1G would go to those schools left.. that is just too much of a risk. No one is going to risk that, especially if it all depends on lying and deceiving their peers, and hoping that info doesnt make it into discovery.
Obviously the 7 schools and their lawyers think differently if they have been meeting regularly as a group and their legal folks are examining the Conference legal documents.Bingo.. you just proved yourself wrong, they could lose out by staying in the ACC, but they could lose a huge amount more by trying to lie their way out.
Because if they lose the multiple lawsuits that will come their way if they deceive the conference in leaving/disbanding, it will cost them 100s of Millions, not just in penalties but also still lose their media income for 10+ years to the schools remaining. So all the income from the SEC or B1G would go to those schools left.. that is just too much of a risk. No one is going to risk that, especially if it all depends on lying and deceiving their peers, and hoping that info doesnt make it into discovery.
This was in response to people saying they will deceive the other members, by hiding they have a place to go negotiated before telling the rest of the conference in order to vote to dissolve. That is just not going to happen.Obviously the 7 schools and their lawyers think differently if they have been meeting regularly as a group and their legal folks are examining the Conference legal documents.
You seem to think they stand to lose hundreds of millions by just contesting the GOR. Groups, Corporations and individuals contest the legality of contracts all the time.
Either the schools feel they have A LOT more to gain or they are using the publicity to negotiate a different revenue sharing formula. With the 12 team playoff coming, it's a good time to push the envelop.
Find a an alumni that is a great lawyer, promise use of football suite for their lifetime. Even if there is a 1% chance, worth it for hundreds of millions.
I also think you missed the part where 7 members and their lawyers have met and still no one has found a way to get out yet. Maybe they will but havent yet. And several of the members involved said it was "futile".
Ive read that BIG wont take Oregon and Washington because they're worth 35 million a year, and their TV contract is worth 75-80 million.
They'd be subsidizing oregon and washington.
ACC GOR is legally binding. FSU and Clemson are screwed.
Ive read that BIG wont take Oregon and Washington because they're worth 35 million a year, and their TV contract is worth 75-80 million.
They'd be subsidizing oregon and washington.
ACC GOR is legally binding. FSU and Clemson are screwed.
Oregon and Washington would definitely come into the B1G at a reduced share, and may even agree to a longer term reduced share if that was a condition of joining.Ive read that BIG wont take Oregon and Washington because they're worth 35 million a year, and their TV contract is worth 75-80 million.
They'd be subsidizing oregon and washington.
ACC GOR is legally binding. FSU and Clemson are screwed.
Ive read that BIG wont take Oregon and Washington because they're worth 35 million a year, and their TV contract is worth 75-80 million.
They'd be subsidizing oregon and washington.
ACC GOR is legally binding. FSU and Clemson are screwed.
Not saying they wouldn’t be subsidizing Oregon or Washington, but they’re already subsidizing Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Rutgers from that perspective. It adds a few convenient close opponents for USC and UCLA as well.Ive read that BIG wont take Oregon and Washington because they're worth 35 million a year, and their TV contract is worth 75-80 million.
They'd be subsidizing oregon and washington.
ACC GOR is legally binding. FSU and Clemson are screwed.
At this point who knows, but if Washington and Oregon stick around there's a viable conference there.
Depending if ESPN/Fox/Universal et al. wants the league to survive
Just because an ACC school hasn't taken action, doesn't mean something isn't in the works. Prepping for a lawsuit can take a year or more.This was in response to people saying they will deceive the other members, by hiding they have a place to go negotiated before telling the rest of the conference in order to vote to dissolve. That is just not going to happen.
I am not saying there wont be a challenge to try to leave. What I am saying is they wont do it through deceiving the other members and hoping that doesnt come out in court.
I also think you missed the part where 7 members and their lawyers have met and still no one has found a way to get out yet. Maybe they will but havent yet. And several of the members involved said it was "futile".
They dont stand to lose 100s of millions by contesting the GoR never said they did. But they have to have a standing to legally contest it. Just because you dont like what you signed years later, is not grounds. They must find something that makes it a valid suit, and then there is no guarantee.
Beyond those things, they have the issue of needing to have a deal to move to a new conference in place before they do something, sure they can discuss if they can break the GoR but before they start that all those members better know they have a better option. Which gets into the collusion issue. The other members left behind still have grounds to sue if they find out there was collusion especially with other conferences and partners to destroy a conference. This is part of the reason the B1G is treading lightly, and had to say that the schools approached them. Adding more MAY open them to lawsuits from teams left.
I can say I am going to win the lottery and marry, a supermodel. But until it happens it is just talk. In the end these schools are meeting and talking but still everything said is no one has found a way. Yet. Maybe they will, but it is obviously very difficult.