Reassuring comments from Texas Tech President

[Cyclonestate78]

Add ND and it might pay for stadium expansion at several smaller stadiums. No way would I give up the home game for ND at a neutral site and not get a neutral site back for the away game at ND.

The big item for ND would be travel. And that is why I don't see them joining the Big XII. ND will stay independent and be in the Big East for everything else.

The Big East isn't on the most solid footing either in all of this realignment mess. Keep in mind that the Big XII minus Nebraska and Colorado becomes one of the premier top to bottom basketball conferences in the country. If the SEC raids the ACC like has been mentioned, the Big 10 is definitely interested in a few ACC schools, what happens to the Big East? Bye, bye. Now Notre Dames parking pass in the Big East expires. The Big XII would look pretty damn enticing to them with all of the things I previously mentioned.

As for the neutral site games with ND... ND loves playing neutral site games. maybe every 4 years ISU could host once, travel once, and then they play 2 neutral site games so they each give up a home game? Maybe with the amount of cash ND would stand to make adding the Big XII tv deal proceeds to their bank account they won't mind playing in Ames, Lawrence, or Waco.... Who knows what would grab their interest. I can tell you that if you add ND to the Big XII at 10 teams the stability concerns are substantially less. Think of ND as a counterweight to Texas. The leadership at both schools are buddy/buddy when it comes to athletics so it would make sense.

 

[Frak]

:biglaugh: This is good. The only conference ND would ever join is the Big10.

You don't know that.

 

[isuno1fan]

I agree 100% with this post. A lot on this board only views this way as there are no other options at this point. My question is if for some reason the Big 10 threw us an offer, would some on this board still want to play follow the leader with Texas? I doubt it. In the end if something better came around ISU fans would jump on it for the same reasons A&M did. I think deep down ISU fans know this conference is the worst in the country by a large margin.

This is so utterly false it hurts my eyes.

I then remembered your posting history and now understand how something as ridiculous as that statement was typed by you.

 

[Yes13]

Great, great post. Too bad the Longhorn bootlickers on this board can't see it. No school worthy of mention is going to join the Big 12 with the smothering ego of Texas still in play. A&M is a great, great school with a classy fan base and top academic reputation. They did not instigate this, the folks in Austin did. The Aggies are simply taking charge of their own future. I wish ISU had the same option.

It's A&M's fault. Texas invited them to build a lonestar state network. Aggies said no, because they were broke, and because they didn't want to be connected to Texas. Now they want to leave because Texas has a network (one in which they could have been a part of).

 

[weR138]

I agree 100% with this post. A lot on this board only views this way as there are no other options at this point. My question is if for some reason the Big 10 threw us an offer, would some on this board still want to play follow the leader with Texas? I doubt it. In the end if something better came around ISU fans would jump on it for the same reasons A&M did. I think deep down ISU fans know this conference is the worst in the country by a large margin.

Why is the Big XII the worst conference in America?

 

[Cyhart]

This is so utterly false it hurts my eyes.

I then remembered your posting history and now understand how something as ridiculous as that statement was typed by you.

+1

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

This is so utterly false it hurts my eyes.

I then remembered your posting history and now understand how something as ridiculous as that statement was typed by you.

Name another conference with more rumors surrounding it? Hell even the Big East is left alone by the national media. Sorry but negative publicity eventually wears on your branding.

 

[Al_4_State]

The biggest problem with the Big 12 is rumors. If you could just get that **** to end, and look at what exists on the field, that perception is dead.

 

[Peter]

I find it quite annoying that no one from ISU will discuss the situation.

That's because we are in secret negotiations to be the SEC's 14th team.

 

[Cyhart]

Name another conference with more rumors surrounding it? Hell even the Big East is left alone by the national media. Sorry but negative publicity eventually wears on your branding.

Branding?
All that matters to me in the conf supremacy argument is what happens on the field/court.
In that sense, the Big 12 is right near the top of the list.
It could be argued that we are now, top to bottom, the best basketball conf in the nation. And I'd put us at a solid #2 in football.

 

[weR138]

Name another conference with more rumors surrounding it? Hell even the Big East is left alone by the national media. Sorry but negative publicity eventually wears on your branding.

Got it, rumors = worst conference in America.

What if I told you that Jim Delaney killed five hookers? Because he did; Jim Delaney killed five hookers.
































rumor has it

 

[Bestaluckcy]

The idea of the Big 12 being aggressive is attractive to me. But instead of waiting for A&M to leave, then acting, why not take a proactive move before they leave. It will take something "big" to give the Aggies pause, and consider staying with the other nine teams. We are stronger with them than without them. How about we enter talks to merge with the Pac 12? Why just sit around and let our teams get poached off one or two at a time? They are faced with the same problem we are. The exception is they have their backs against an Ocean. We could have an east and west division with some crossover play. We could consolidate the Western half of the US and be the greatest conference in both geography and numbers. Scott would be a much better commisioner than Beebe. The resulting conference would have many pluses to build on, including stability. A&M could have a choice, run the SEC gauntlet or save a few million and play familiar competition with a stable future, while at the same time keeping the SEC locked out of Texas.

 

[trajanJ]

Superconferences will not happen unless Texas & ND get on board. Texas and ND have no desire to play this game. People think the PAC/BIG/SEC hold the cards. I say Texas/ND hold the cards. That is a big reason to support their position in all of this.
4 Superconferences will never happen until they can figure out what to do with Texas/ND. That is a high mountain to climb.

But I could see all the other schools joining one of the 4 and the Pac leaving a spot for Texas and the Big 10 leaving a spot of ND. If the SEC does go to 16 and there seems to be an a lot of smoke on that, then there's your first 16. The OK schools have been rumored to go to the PAC and they feel it's time to move. Then the other conferences grab who they want and ND and Texas will have to pick a conference because of all their sports. The Big East and Big 12 won't have enough schools left and the leftovers will have a lot less cache than the other conference school. ND & Texas will need a home for all their sports and will end up in one of the superconferences.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I don't even want to discuss this as some are stuck in their ways, but if the conference is so strong compared to the others, how come schools are not leaving the SEC, PAC 12, SEC, Big East, Big 10? Three schools leaving in two years (two marque) says this conference is not healthy. As long as one team holds the power and has special perks this conference will remain unstable, there is no denying that. Just cause you go out and add three schools that does not mean stability. Big 12 could add 20, but the underlying issues still remain for the conference. Ultimately everyone wants equal revenue sharing and a conference network, those will likely never happen in the Big 12.

 

[DRCHIRO]

Got it, rumors = worst conference in America.

What if I told you that Jim Delaney killed five hookers? Because he did; Jim Delaney killed five hookers.
































rumor has it

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to weR138 again.

For what it is worth, I heard Larry Scott was with him.

 

[CYphyllis]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to weR138 again.

For what it is worth, I heard Larry Scott was with him.

Whoever your inside informant is, is completely full of ****. During the time of the Delaney murders, Larry Scott was busy firebombing an orphanage.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

The biggest problem with the Big 12 is rumors. If you could just get that **** to end, and look at what exists on the field, that perception is dead.

100% correct. Nobody can argue about the results the Big XII has every year in athletics. They are near the top in football, basketball, women's basketball, wrestling, baseball, and on and on. Think that kind of record wouldn't be attractive to a school like Notre Dame? They would have 2 top level programs in Texas and OU to play in football every year while they would play quality teams like Mizzou and Okie State as well. Their schedule strength would improve while not being an absolute killer while they are rebuilding their football program. Their other sports like men's and women's basketball would jump into one of the best conferences in America as well. They could solidify everything for the conference and probably put the Big XII in a very strong position to potentially start adding teams to become a 16 team super-conference if that day arrives. There would be plenty of teams that would take a look at joining the Big XII if ND was involved as then with Texas & ND together along with OU and Kansas in basketball... the Big XII becomes a huge moneymaker.

This is a business afterall and I think several of us on here understand that if the Big XII is to survive they must start thinking big. Think a Big XII network would get picked up around the country with Texas & Notre Dame in it? It would potentially create the cash cow of all cash cows. That could appeal to Notre Dame just a bit.

 

[jbhtexas]

No school worthy of mention is going to join the Big 12 with the smothering ego of Texas still in play.

I guess we are going to find out, aren't we...

A&M is a great, great school with a classy fan base and top academic reputation.

That's your opinion. It is certainly not held by others...

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum...4747-m-heads-ncaa-over-lhn-4.html#post2324776

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum...ir-stir-stick-again-summer-8.html#post2310321

They did not instigate this, the folks in Austin did.

How is it again that UT is making A&M leave?

Was it also UT's fault that Turgeon bailed on A&M earlier this year? Maybe he didn't want to coach in the SEC...

 

[ruxCYtable]

I like his comments. I think it is exactly the kind of tough, aggressive stance the league should be taking. I only wish Mr. Beebe shared this approach.

 

[CYphyllis]

I don't even want to discuss this as some are stuck in their ways, but if the conference is so strong compared to the others, how come schools are not leaving the SEC, PAC 12, SEC, Big East, Big 10? Three schools leaving in two years (two marque) says this conference is not healthy. As long as one team holds the power and has special perks this conference will remain unstable, there is no denying that. Just cause you go out and add three schools that does not mean stability. Big 12 could add 20, but the underlying issues still remain for the conference. Ultimately everyone wants equal revenue sharing and a conference network, those will likely never happen in the Big 12.

Those conferences aren't stuck in the middle. As much as you want to sit here and cry and ***** and moan and whine, you seem to always leave out the obvious. Who the hell else are these conferences going to raid for schools?

Nebraska started the firestorm by being, well, a lot like you. Once blood is in the water you can't keep the nearby sharks (Larry Scott, Mike Slive, Jim Delaney) away.