REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept

ribsnwhiskey

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So, rustshack=hines?
 

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Nothing says professionalism like an AD using twitter to address issues.

What choice does he have. There is a bunch of mis-information out there and it's spreading like the plague. You need to protect your reputation. For recruiting...for staff...for the school...for the administration. He needs to go to twitter.
 

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Nothing says professionalism like an AD using twitter to address issues.
I only do my professional correspondence through Instagram.
 

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I'm just here to help the view total...
 

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But you are both willing to go all in and believe anonymous sources from a small-market newspaper journalist. Gotcha.

No. Of course I no longer believe the article now that Fred has come out and refuted it. I was just saying that one didn't have to be present in the room to know how JP initially reacted to the story (that is - he declined to comment when asked to do so).
 

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How weird is it at the AD's office today? How many are going to go out and get a drink tonight?
 

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I'll say it once and I'll say it again. This change had NOTHING to do with costs. I believe Fred loves this school and he wants the best for the program. After last season, 2 things happened. Fred found an opportunity in Chicago as the NBA has been an opportunity that always excited him. And also he bravely, rightfully, and intelligently left because he wasn't sure he could take us to the next level and was hopeful Jamie could find somebody to take us to the next step. I don't know if Jamie was planning on moving on from Fred after last season, but it didn't have to do with costs. Jamie Pollard spends his money wisely, but I can promise you he is not a cheap man. Now if Fred wanted a raise, that's a different story, but I've heard no reports Fred wanted a new deal. I'm not sure if Fred and Jamie go double dating together, but I am sure they don't hate each other.

Oh boy. You will get burned at the stake by the Anti-Bode mob for that comment.

By the way, it's a pretty wacky thought, in my humble opinion. I doubt Fred left ISU because he thought Jamie Pollard could hire someone to take ISU to another level.
 

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Very consistent with what I heard on both ends. Fred did not suffer monitoring college kids well and he didn't particularly like recruiting and everything that went with it.

Now Fred gets to baby coach Derrick Rose.
 

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I'm sure Hines had plenty of good sources to run the story, but regardless of if it's true or not you can't run the story without Fred's support, or at least silent consent.

Fred could say he ***** clone cones and ISU fans would line up outside his house with spoons. Not a guy you want calling you a liar.
 

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Apparently Hines is also working on a story about privacy settings on facebook, and that you will get charged $5.99.
 

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Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept

FASTEST growing thread in the history of CF to be sure...
 

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This post is just stupid. You protect your source or you lose your source. Named sources have too much to lose by speaking out.

So maybe don't speak out then, unless you are ready to reveal yourself. Seems pretty shady and gutless to feed information to reporters anonymously. You can pretty much say whatever you want whether its true or not.
 

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I'm sure Hines had plenty of good sources to run the story, but regardless of if it's true or not you can't run the story without Fred's support, or at least silent consent.

Fred could say he ***** clone cones and ISU fans would line up outside his house with spoons. Not a guy you want calling you a liar.
I don't know that that's true, if Fred is actually a toe the company line kind of guy, or friends with Pollard or whatever he might never admit it were true even if it was.
 

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Really liked Pollard going on KXNO. Plenty of ADs would have had no comment other than to issue a polished statement from behind closed doors. JP just picked up the phone and had nothing to hide. I'm inclined to believe him.

I'm starting to think also that Hines may have said "close to double-digit sources" instead of listing a number because it's obvious Pollard already knows who most if not all of the sources were and Hines was allowing them a little plausible deniability this way. CW or somebody should try to get a (non-anonymous) comment from Cornell Mann on this story...

The worst thing about this story - even if the animosity is true - is the falsehoods that recruits and others will read. "ISU made players sleep on the floor of a ballroom" has been tweeted by major media figures while the reality is that check-out time was noon and the flight was at 6:00 so the players had time to kill, maybe by napping in the ballroom. Completely different situation but 99% of those who saw the first phrase will not see the second.

They could have kept a couple of rooms and piled the tired boys in there for an afternoon.
 

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Nothing says professionalism like an AD using twitter to address issues.

Agreed, he should've went on the radio and directly answered questions to do that...
 

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I wonder why Fred & Jamie ignored repeated requests from Hines but then immediately went on the radio when the story came out. I'd have liked them to get their side in print in the same article.

Why? So that Hines could frame their words as he wanted to? So he could cherry-pick partial quotes? No.
 

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So maybe don't speak out then, unless you are ready to reveal yourself. Seems pretty shady and gutless to feed information to reporters anonymously. You can pretty much say whatever you want whether its true or not.

Yeah, because everyone can afford to lose their job. You just doubled-down.
 

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CW will not push Hines. They are friends and CW is not a journalist.
 

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