Royals are in first!

brett108

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Can you tell us when the last time this occurred was? Carlos Beltran? Seriously I see this posted a lot but that was many years ago. In reality the Royals have been signing their young hitters they have developed like Butler and Gordon.

Greinke was the only developed talent they have traded, and it made all the sense in the world given how far they were from contending, oh, and the fact that he demanded a trade. Prior to that we did what we needed to do and signed him through his first couple free agent years.
Touche. It has been awhile since this occurred. My issue is lack of offense(this year is better but over the last decade, it was plainly missing). And we have had opportunities to keep better hitters. Melky Cabrera was on this team a few years ago, he would be the best hitter on the squad this year.Instead we have Cain, who while having a good year is not the player Cabrera is. And what ever happened to Sanchez?

The Royals have been willing to go and get mid-high level pitching talent on the free agent and trade market. When is the last time they tried this with a bat?

Maybe we need to just take what we can develop, but there are advatages to cheering for a team willing to make deals for a more finished product. And I am not talking the Josh Willingham type deals.
 
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CloneIce

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Touche. It has been awhile since this occurred. My issue is lack of offense(this year is better but over the last decade, it was plainly missing). And we have had opportunities to keep better hitters. Melky Cabrera was on this team a few years ago, he would be the best hitter on the squad this year.Instead we have Cain, who while having a good year is not the player Cabrera is. And what ever happened to Sanchez?

The Royals have been willing to go and get mid-high level pitching talent on the free agent and trade market. When is the last time they tried this with a bat?

Maybe we need to just take what we can develop, but there are advatages to cheering for a team willing to make deals for a more finished product. And I am not talking the Josh Willingham type deals.

Cabrera was roiding the season he was here and was busted for it the next. I personally think Frenchy was too. DM chose to sign Frenchy instead of Cabrera... Frenchy sucked, and Cabrera was suspended, he still was probably better than Frenchy.

Are you talking about Jonathan Sanchez? He was terrible for the Royals, we ended up flipping him for Guthrie, then signing Guthrie so that deal worked out really well for us. I'd imagine Sanchez is in the minor or out of baseball, either way he would have no chance making our rotation this or last year.

Agree, they need to go out and get a bat next year (RF or 3B). They did trade for Aoki this year but he had a bad first half.
 

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Cabrera was roiding the season he was here and was busted for it the next. I personally think Frenchy was too. DM chose to sign Frenchy instead of Cabrera... Frenchy sucked, and Cabrera was suspended, he still was probably better than Frenchy.

Are you talking about Jonathan Sanchez? He was terrible for the Royals, we ended up flipping him for Guthrie, then signing Guthrie so that deal worked out really well for us. I'd imagine Sanchez is in the minor or out of baseball, either way he would have no chance making our rotation this or last year.

Agree, they need to go out and get a bat next year (RF or 3B). They did trade for Aoki this year but he had a bad first half.

I don't know that we can pin all the offense in 2011 on PEDs. Seitzer was doing fine work with the hitters until Ned ran him off. 5 hitting coaches later they are finally getting back to average.
 

CloneIce

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I don't know that we can pin all the offense in 2011 on PEDs. Seitzer was doing fine work with the hitters until Ned ran him off. 5 hitting coaches later they are finally getting back to average.

I agree, Seitzer was good. So funny they ran him off because we didn't hit HRs, then we did so much worse at it after they fired him.

We had two OFs who we signed for peanuts that were trying to resurrect their careers - Cabrera and Frenchy. They both happened to have great years with us right before they were to sign free agent contracts. Cabrera was busted of course. Frenchy looked ten years older the next year after he signed his contract...
 

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Can you tell us when the last time this occurred was? Carlos Beltran? Seriously I see this posted a lot but that was many years ago. In reality the Royals have been signing their young hitters they have developed like Butler and Gordon. Greinke was the only developed talent they have traded, and it made all the sense in the world given how far they were from contending, oh, and the fact that he demanded a trade. Prior to that we did what we needed to do and signed him through his first couple free agent years.
Eh, Wil Myers?
 

CloneIce

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Eh, Wil Myers?

Eh, no. Traded for pitching. He was talking about selling off players because they can't afford them. Trading prospects for much, much more expensive pitching assets to enable us to make a pennant run is really the exact opposite of what we are talking about.
 

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Eh, no. Traded for pitching. He was talking about selling off players because they can't afford them. Trading prospects for much, much more expensive pitching assets to enable us to make a pennant run is really the exact opposite of what we are talking about.
His statement: "They need some young power hitters to come through, but they tend to draft then sell them before they can do anything for the team." I don't see anything in that statement about being able to afford anyone. Most of the guys that we got rid of prior to their big pay day did a lot for KC before they left. He said "before they can do anything for the team" so I am pretty sure he's not talking about guys like Beltran, who played SEVEN YEARS in KC, four of which he had 20+ HRs and 100+ RBI. Wil Myers is a power hitting prospect that we sold before he could do anything for the team. We sold him for two pitchers who thankfully seem to have been worth it so far. So I stand by my statement.
 

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Royals taking care of business again tonight. How big was DH'ing the pitcher with 2 outs and no one on in the 6th?
 

CloneIce

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His statement: "They need some young power hitters to come through, but they tend to draft then sell them before they can do anything for the team." I don't see anything in that statement about being able to afford anyone. Most of the guys that we got rid of prior to their big pay day did a lot for KC before they left. He said "before they can do anything for the team" so I am pretty sure he's not talking about guys like Beltran, who played SEVEN YEARS in KC, four of which he had 20+ HRs and 100+ RBI. Wil Myers is a power hitting prospect that we sold before he could do anything for the team. We sold him for two pitchers who thankfully seem to have been worth it so far. So I stand by my statement.

Eh, we interpret it differently than, usually people talk about KC trading off their talent and usually they are still thinking about what we did years ago. Anyway, making one big trade for key pitching hardly qualifies as always selling off their young hitters anyway.
 

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Royals up, Tigers down early, Mariners down on Felix day. I don't even know what to do with my hands. Go Royals!
 

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Tigers give up 20 runs. Their last pitcher will never be called upon to evber pitch for them again. Skyrockets in the evening.
 

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