Rumors of other Transfers?

[GoShow97]

You know, I don't even care what you guys talk about in these meetings, but do you guys have pipes and monocles?

Tally ho!

Magis 8 ball says yes. They would tell you but you can't handle it.

 

[CRAZYGREG]

I'm in that generation of kids, and I'll tell you right now: cut it out. When people look back on the past, they tend look at it in a brighter light than what actually happened. I work multiple jobs to help pay to put myself through school, and the vast majority of people that I know in "this generation of kids" do the same thing. Now, if you mean people aren't as prone to letting themselves get run over by overbearing leaders/bosses/coaches, then maybe yes. Kids might expect a little bit more from their leaders now than in the past, but is that a bad thing? I would think that a lesson we've learned from our past, from things like corporal punishment in schools or not allowing kids to talk until they are spoken to, would be that some of these things needed to change. A lot of people making this argument claim that they want kids to be more independent, but then when players decide to transfer from Iowa State because they think they can do more for themselves somewhere else, that's not OK.

Life is short, and the chances to play basketball at a competitive level for these players are very limited. They have a short window to try and get better to prove themselves if they want to play professionally. Do I like our transfers? No. Do I like the reasons given for our transfers? No. But, do I think players have the right to transfer if they think it will improve their situation? Yes. You shouldn't have to suffer through something if it is preventable. Maybe they could have been more picky in choosing to come to ISU, yes. However, that doesn't change where they are now, and what that situation is, and you can't change the past. You can only live in the present.

Sorry - I didn't start it JP did. Long live JP!!

 

[azn4cy]

I'm in that generation of kids, and I'll tell you right now: cut it out. When people look back on the past, they tend look at it in a brighter light than what actually happened. I work multiple jobs to help pay to put myself through school, and the vast majority of people that I know in "this generation of kids" do the same thing. Now, if you mean people aren't as prone to letting themselves get run over by overbearing leaders/bosses/coaches, then maybe yes. Kids might expect a little bit more from their leaders now than in the past, but is that a bad thing? I would think that a lesson we've learned from our past, from things like corporal punishment in schools or not allowing kids to talk until they are spoken to, would be that some of these things needed to change. A lot of people making this argument claim that they want kids to be more independent, but then when players decide to transfer from Iowa State because they think they can do more for themselves somewhere else, that's not OK.

Life is short, and the chances to play basketball at a competitive level for these players are very limited. They have a short window to try and get better to prove themselves if they want to play professionally. Do I like our transfers? No. Do I like the reasons given for our transfers? No. But, do I think players have the right to transfer if they think it will improve their situation? Yes. You shouldn't have to suffer through something if it is preventable. Maybe they could have been more picky in choosing to come to ISU, yes. However, that doesn't change where they are now, and what that situation is, and you can't change the past. You can only live in the present.

DSM4CY, I totally agree. and I think crazygreg does too. we were both posting in jest in our previous posts. guess you had to be there to get the inside jokes. My bad.

 

[GoShow97]

I'm in that generation of kids, and I'll tell you right now: cut it out. When people look back on the past, they tend look at it in a brighter light than what actually happened. I work multiple jobs to help pay to put myself through school, and the vast majority of people that I know in "this generation of kids" do the same thing. Now, if you mean people aren't as prone to letting themselves get run over by overbearing leaders/bosses/coaches, then maybe yes. Kids might expect a little bit more from their leaders now than in the past, but is that a bad thing? I would think that a lesson we've learned from our past, from things like corporal punishment in schools or not allowing kids to talk until they are spoken to, would be that some of these things needed to change. A lot of people making this argument claim that they want kids to be more independent, but then when players decide to transfer from Iowa State because they think they can do more for themselves somewhere else, that's not OK.

Life is short, and the chances to play basketball at a competitive level for these players are very limited. They have a short window to try and get better to prove themselves if they want to play professionally. Do I like our transfers? No. Do I like the reasons given for our transfers? No. But, do I think players have the right to transfer if they think it will improve their situation? Yes. You shouldn't have to suffer through something if it is preventable. Maybe they could have been more picky in choosing to come to ISU, yes. However, that doesn't change where they are now, and what that situation is, and you can't change the past. You can only live in the present.

I think you just helped JP's case. :wink:

 

[dbronco7sc]

No offense but these vague posts are what we get from kg but you don't seem to get upset when he does it. "Good news coming in a week or so", "The program is heading in the right direction just trust me" etc....

Just saying.....

I'm not defending kg about his 'vague posts of good fortune coming'... but there are an equal number of 'vague inside posts of bad fortune coming".

such as people saying things like:

'Dendy's gone... trust me.'

'There will be 2 or 3 more people following Colvin's lead... Mark it down'

and

"It's not over yet..." in response to something bad that happened.


It goes both ways... only there's a lot more people on the "unhappy with McD side" that only his posts get called out... not often when I see you guys getting upset with the vague, inside source posts with no proof or facts that happen to be negative about ISU basketball.

 

[DSM4Cy]

Sorry - I didn't start it JP did. Long live JP!!

DSM4CY, I totally agree. and I think crazygreg does too. we were both posting in jest in our previous posts. guess you had to be there to get the inside jokes. My bad.

I think you just helped JP's case. :wink:

I've been had. Just saw the one line and got kind of angry. Reading Jamie's "explanation" of the basketball situation ****** me off earlier too. Of everything he could have done, he tried to put down Fennelly for one bad year of transfers and tried to blame everything on my generation of kids. I like a lot of what he's done, but JP really, REALLY ****** me off.

 

[azn4cy]

I'm not defending kg about his 'vague posts of good fortune coming'... but there are an equal number of 'vague inside posts of bad fortune coming".

such as people saying things like:

'Dendy's gone... trust me.'

'There will be 2 or 3 more people following Colvin's lead... Mark it down'

and

"It's not over yet..." in response to something bad that happened.


It goes both ways... only there's a lot more people on the "unhappy with McD side" that only his posts get called out... not often when I see you guys getting upset with the vague, inside source posts with no proof or facts that happen to be negative about ISU basketball.

Big difference. when people say Dendy's gone, trust me, they don't ever claim to have any inside info, they pretty much admit to speculating. Not true the other way around. I'm not as hard on KG as most, but clearly his "haters" don't like the way he says he has inside info, but really just speculates like everyone else.

 

[CRAZYGREG]

My question - Who is more right most of the time? Kg and his " good fortunes" are coming - Or the others with their "bad fortunes" are coming?? hahahaha

 

[Clonefan32]

How about people just let us know when someone is staying...until then I will assume everyone else is gone.

 

[dbronco7sc]

Big difference. when people say Dendy's gone, trust me, they don't ever claim to have any inside info, they pretty much admit to speculating. Not true the other way around. I'm not as hard on KG as most, but clearly his "haters" don't like the way he says he has inside info, but really just speculates like everyone else.

Many state it in the way you described... but I would say there are at least as many posts from people who claim to have inside info as KG and CIMD posts of similar nature... they just don't get questioned about there sources as much as kg does. KG may post one statement... which gets discussed by 40 people in one thread... so it seems like he's making tons of these claims.

But when I get home from work, I could go and probably find 15 or so posts fairly quickly where people are informing us of the 'doom that's coming', and how we just need to wait and see as they have already heard it from their souces.

Some have been correct, there were a lot of people stating they knew Colvin was for sure gone and that an announcement will be made later. They never gave their souces. Turns out they were correct... but they were still "Trust me... I know from my sources" posts until the announcement was made by ISU.

Again... I have no problem with either these posts or KGs... I just think KG has as much right to post stuff like that on a message board as everybody else does.

The information is free... and it's up to each one of us individually to decide how we interpret that data.

 

[rhague23]

Unfortunately, I have heard at least 2 other names that won't be playing for us next year, and one coach that will no longer be here as well. Which would take us to 5 scholarship players returning plus our new guys next year. Sorry I can't name names. But I am sure we will be hearing from all of them soon.

 

[hursts]

I would guess that the really big surprise would be DG. He has not used his redshirt yet. He is probably not that close to anyone left on the current roster and it would make it easy for him to leave. Another guess would be Alex Dorr. Just guesses. Dendy can't really transfer, Paulo already used his redshirt as did VanderBeeken, I don't see Boozer leaving at this point. KG already posted Oliver is not looking to leave. That really doesn't leave anyone else but DG and Dorr.

 

[dbronco7sc]

My question - Who is more right most of the time? Kg and his " good fortunes" are coming - Or the others with their "bad fortunes" are coming?? hahahaha

Understandable... and lately... there have been more bad fortunes.

But those who "knew Brackins was leaving last year" were wrong. And a good chunk of the time kg or cimd have posted 'good news is coming'... we've gotten a recruit who (in their opinion) is good news. (ie. DP, Ejim, JR)

And I haven't seen Dendy leave (yet), or the '2 others' that are supposedly leaving any minute. So... those may very well be inaccurate as well.

Yes... KG made a statement our program is in a good state right now. That's an obvious opinion in my mind... but yeah... most people disagree with that.

I prefer getting everybody's inside info... and sorting it out on my own.

 

[rholtgraves]

I heard rumors that we are going to steal Josh Selby away from Kansas and Kentucky, and that Brandon Knight was going decommit from Kentucky and come here.

 

[Dryburn]

Haha...That was good.

You guys should know SnowCraig did a nice little edit job on old Summits post.:biggrin:

If this is true, then provide what was edited out. Otherwise, your post means absolutely nothing. You are laughable.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I took out the last sentence, which said Summit enjoyed the social group more than the main board. I was trying to not out the social group, but since they pretty much did that themselves, I guess there is no harm.

 

[Dryburn]

I took out the last sentence, which said Summit enjoyed the social group more than the main board. I was trying to not out the social group, but since they pretty much did that themselves, I guess there is no harm.

Wow! Shocking that you would with-hold that information! That puts the whole thing in such a different light huh KG? Now we truly know the rest of the story.......

 

[snowcraig2.0]

We landed on the moon!

 

[907CY]

I heard that Rowley, 7 footer from Northwestern, was interested in transferring to Iowa State. He would have to set out next season but would pair nicely with our incoming freshman center. I got this rumor from a NW student who lives by Rowley.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

NAIA Northwestern?