Short bench + elevation = worries?

SwirlyBird

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why would you worry about athletes who have competed at a high level all of their lives? This sounds like a conversation that would happen at AARP meeting on a coffee break.
 

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No. Altitude sickness for most people occurs at elevations above 8,000 ft. The air pressure at 8,000 ft is about the same as the air pressure maintained inside of commercial aircraft. The Pepsi Center in Denver is only at 5,193 ft. Ames is at 900 ft. and Iona is at 89 ft., so if anything it would bother Iona worse. However, neither team should feel any effects from playing at 5,193 ft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_sickness

The issue with elevation in Denver is not altitude sickness. The oxygen density is only 83% of what it is compared to sea level. This has a real effect on how much someone has to breathe to get the same amount of oxygen saturation in their blood.

The other real issue was already mentioned: loss of water/need for proper hydration.
 

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Has it been that long since we played at Colorado every year that people forget?
 

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The issue with elevation in Denver is not altitude sickness. The oxygen density is only 83% of what it is compared to sea level. This has a real effect on how much someone has to breathe to get the same amount of oxygen saturation in their blood.

The other real issue was already mentioned: loss of water/need for proper hydration.
Does doesn't it only take a day to get use to it though? I thought your body creates more red blood cells to carry more oxygen since you aren't breathing as much in.
 

brett108

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Not a dumb question. Especially since ISU rarely played well in Boulder.
Guess Texas , Kansas and Oklahoma are elevated too then. ISU barely played well at all on the road when Colorado was still in the conference. Show up two days early and drink some water. They will be fine.
 

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Kind of appropriate, considering Marley and Colorado.

The real issue with this thread is that this is a Bobby McFerrin song - not Bob Marley.

[video]https://youtu.be/d-diB65scQU[/video]
 

istater7

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If they get there as early as Prohm wants, then it shouldn't be a big deal to get acclimated.
 

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The issue with elevation in Denver is not altitude sickness. The oxygen density is only 83% of what it is compared to sea level. This has a real effect on how much someone has to breathe to get the same amount of oxygen saturation in their blood.

The other real issue was already mentioned: loss of water/need for proper hydration.

At 5,193 ft elevation, the hemoglobin saturation is around 97%-99% assuming no increase in breathing rate or no increase in breathing volume. With a slightly increased breathing rate and breathing volume, the hemoglobin saturation is 100% or in other words, no effect. http://www.altitude.org/oxygen_levels.php

It is true that the oxygen density is 83% of that at sea level at 5,193 ft, however we do not train at sea level. We train and play a majority of our games at 900 ft above sea level in Ames. At 900 ft above sea level the oxygen density is 97% of that at sea level. So we are acclimated to a slightly lower oxygen density level to begin with.

We play at Lubbock, TX (Texas Tech) at altitude of 3,231 ft above sea level and the oxygen density there is only 89% of that at sea level. That has never been a concern when we play in Lubbock. The body adjusts to a lower level of oxygen density quite quickly at elevations below 8,000 ft above sea level. Breathing rate might be increased slightly and red blood cells might increase somewhat to compensate for the lower oxygen density.

As a side note, if we were to have a significantly reduced level of performance at 5,193 ft (Pepsi Center, Denver) or Lubbock (3,231 ft) then we should have an increased level of performance at altitudes less than 900 ft (Ames). Thus, we would have a significant increase in performance at 669 ft (Ft. Worth, TX), at 397 ft (Waco, TX), or 523 ft (Austin, TX). The higher levels of oxygen density at those locations hasn't helped us in our performance level against teams from those locations.

In conclusion, I would say that performance at elevations below 8,000 ft would not be effected. A person could acclimate for a day or so if they were concerned about it.
 

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At 5,193 ft elevation, the hemoglobin saturation is around 97%-99% assuming no increase in breathing rate or no increase in breathing volume. With a slightly increased breathing rate and breathing volume, the hemoglobin saturation is 100% or in other words, no effect. http://www.altitude.org/oxygen_levels.php

It is true that the oxygen density is 83% of that at sea level at 5,193 ft, however we do not train at sea level. We train and play a majority of our games at 900 ft above sea level in Ames. At 900 ft above sea level the oxygen density is 97% of that at sea level. So we are acclimated to a slightly lower oxygen density level to begin with.

We play at Lubbock, TX (Texas Tech) at altitude of 3,231 ft above sea level and the oxygen density there is only 89% of that at sea level. That has never been a concern when we play in Lubbock. The body adjusts to a lower level of oxygen density quite quickly at elevations below 8,000 ft above sea level. Breathing rate might be increased slightly and red blood cells might increase somewhat to compensate for the lower oxygen density.

As a side note, if we were to have a significantly reduced level of performance at 5,193 ft (Pepsi Center, Denver) or Lubbock (3,231 ft) then we should have an increased level of performance at altitudes less than 900 ft (Ames). Thus, we would have a significant increase in performance at 669 ft (Ft. Worth, TX), at 397 ft (Waco, TX), or 523 ft (Austin, TX). The higher levels of oxygen density at those locations hasn't helped us in our performance level against teams from those locations.

In conclusion, I would say that performance at elevations below 8,000 ft would not be effected. A person could acclimate for a day or so if they were concerned about it.

This is a pretty good source: http://runnersconnect.net/running-training-articles/high-altitude-training-running-performance/

I live in Denver and just about every single endurance competition performed in the area shows decreased endurance for those who haven't acclimated for more than a few days. Last year after regular people ran the Bolder Boulder, the professionals ran. The announcer there made sure we all knew in advance that no records were going to be set because it wasn't cold enough to get the oxygen density high enough to perform at the highest level.

At 8,000 ft, our players would likely be SEVERELY affected by the altitude.

The other important thing that has already been mentioned: all teams will be on equal playing ground.

It's mostly a non-issue for our basketball team, but your approach to proving this is incorrect.
 

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From Blum on Twitter:

Last time Iowa State played in elevation, they beat BYU 90-88 in a crazy intense game. Cyclones played pretty much 7 dudes.

Georges Niang played 37 minutes, scored 19 points and had 8 assists in that BYU game at 5k feet elevation. He was fat then.


I think this team is too hungry to not win this game
 

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From Blum on Twitter:

Last time Iowa State played in elevation, they beat BYU 90-88 in a crazy intense game. Cyclones played pretty much 7 dudes.

Georges Niang played 37 minutes, scored 19 points and had 8 assists in that BYU game at 5k feet elevation. He was fat then.


I think this team is too hungry to not win this game

Matt knocked down a couple great shots. But whar Edozie?:sad:
 

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From Blum on Twitter:

Last time Iowa State played in elevation, they beat BYU 90-88 in a crazy intense game. Cyclones played pretty much 7 dudes.

Georges Niang played 37 minutes, scored 19 points and had 8 assists in that BYU game at 5k feet elevation. He was fat then.


I think this team is too hungry to not win this game
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Utah should have an advantage. They play Fresno State on Thursday night. That's not really our problem though.

I noticed the elevation change in my jogging ability for about two months after getting to Denver, but I doubt it's an issue for finely tuned athletes. As long as they don't have sickle cell.
 

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Dehydration is a bigger issue at altitude than the oxygen. If they get here a day or two early and stay hydrated they won't have an issue.

Monte's shoulder is a much bigger concern.

Legal weed is the bigger issue. EVERYTHING is infused on Colorado! :rolleyes:
 

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The Gaels have been training for weeks in hypobaric chambers to simulate the thinner air. We are doomed.
 

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