Shout out to coach Campbell for calling time out to let the referee

[HFCS]

The biggest thing for me on the Freyler call was that nothing was seen or called on the field. Some Baylor lover official in the booth decided to look at that and radio down to the field and stop play immediately so they could throw probably our 2nd best defensive player out of the game.

Okay.... fine.... whatever. You've decided on one of the first plays of the game what the standard for the day is going to be for 'targeting'. You're going to call it tight, and if it's even questionable you've decided you're going to toss guys out of the game. Fine. At least we know now how it's going to be called.

So the ISU players had to start being a little less aggressive and hold back a bit..... we couldn't afford to get anyone else on defense thrown out of the game.

But Baylor was still being very aggressive.... but nothing getting called on them for hits just as bad as Freyler's, or in some cases even worse. #20 for Baylor should have been thrown out twice (I know that's impossible). Doyle should have been thrown out for his hit on Brock that knocked him out of the game for a few plays. After the game Brock was asked about that hit and he said he had a stinger in his chest and said something to the affect that it's hard to sustain getting hit with the crown of the helmet right to your chest. That's the definition of 'targeting'. Was it looked at upstairs though and called down..... nope.

And then a few plays later, Johnson gets 15 yds for a below the waist hit, which was actually to the shoulder area. That one was an even far worse call than Freyler's by far. So now what do our defensive players think they can do and what they cannot do after those 2 calls? And that is why I was glad CMC called the timeout right there to rip those officials a new one. He was telling those officials... "how do you expect our players to be able to compete and play the game out there?".

It put all our defenders on edge the rest of the game wondering if they were going to get ejected, and so they played a bit more cautious. It was total BS. It was not a competitive playing field out there from that moment on IMO.

This is all just clear fact and 0% chance it can all just be luck or chance.

 

[CyNews]

The biggest thing for me on the Freyler call was that nothing was seen or called on the field. Some Baylor lover official in the booth decided to look at that and radio down to the field and stop play immediately so they could throw probably our 2nd best defensive player out of the game.

Okay.... fine.... whatever. You've decided on one of the first plays of the game what the standard for the day is going to be for 'targeting'. You're going to call it tight, and if it's even questionable you've decided you're going to toss guys out of the game. Fine. At least we know now how it's going to be called.

So the ISU players had to start being a little less aggressive and hold back a bit..... we couldn't afford to get anyone else on defense thrown out of the game.

But Baylor was still being very aggressive.... but nothing getting called on them for hits just as bad as Freyler's, or in some cases even worse. #20 for Baylor should have been thrown out twice (I know that's impossible). Doyle should have been thrown out for his hit on Brock that knocked him out of the game for a few plays. After the game Brock was asked about that hit and he said he had a stinger in his chest and said something to the affect that it's hard to sustain getting hit with the crown of the helmet right to your chest. That's the definition of 'targeting'. Was it looked at upstairs though and called down..... nope.

And then a few plays later, Johnson gets 15 yds for a below the waist hit, which was actually to the shoulder area. That one was an even far worse call than Freyler's by far. So now what do our defensive players think they can do and what they cannot do after those 2 calls? And that is why I was glad CMC called the timeout right there to rip those officials a new one. He was telling those officials... "how do you expect our players to be able to compete and play the game out there?".

It put all our defenders on edge the rest of the game wondering if they were going to get ejected, and so they played a bit more cautious. It was total BS. It was not a competitive playing field out there from that moment on IMO.

And it had to be Doyle catching that pass. Insult to injury.

 

[HFCS]

My lip reading skills aren’t great but pretty sure Campbell spent the entire TO screaming “WHAT THE **** WAS THAT?!” at any ref who dared to get close.

When radio network went to Campbell halftime sideline interview all you heard was “that was some $hit” and quick cut to commercial. Hard to say if it was Campbell or Harklau.

 

[ISUCubswin]

10 years ago, I agree, the rigged narrative was bad (unless it was Texas football or Kansas basketball)

However, with sports gambling as popular as it is now, it is very hard NOT to think something is up in general.

This crew was a ******* embarrassment week 1 in the LSU-Florida State game, kept their jobs for probably the biggest Big 12 game of the weekend and were a-*******-trocious.

If they keep their jobs and you think it’s not rigged, you’re nuts

 

[HFCS]

Watched the Baylor Sic'em post game on youtube last night, and even the two Baylor hosts on that show thought ISU was getting screwed on several horrible calls in the 1st half yesterday and that Baylor was very fortunate to get those because they directly led to two Baylor TD's that likely would not have happened without those calls.

So you know it's bad when your opponent's feel the same way about the calls.

They were laughing at how ridiculous the defensive low block was and some of our own fans can’t admit that obviously spotted Baylor 7 fake points.

 

[nfrine]

In this day of on-line betting, bad referees will be noticed a bit more.

 

[clonedude]

They were laughing at how ridiculous the defensive low block was and some of our own fans can’t admit that obviously spotted Baylor 7 fake points.

Yeah, they basically admitted on their show that Baylor should consider themselves lucky.... got the calls all day long for the most part. They even said it led to 14 first half pts for them. Baylor fans can admit it, but some ISU fans still can't.

 

[CycloneVet]

KU is showing shades of early 00's cyclones, where they're off to a hot start vs bad teams and have basically one standout player. Hopefully we'll help them finish like our teams did--disappointingly.

I will say I don't like how liepold has his players believing they can win, lol. Helpfully we will be lucky and another conference will hire him away.

Can you imagine the around the league thoughts about ISU Campbells second year. The **** burgers we served OU and TCU were epic.

 

[HFCS]

Yeah, they basically admitted on their show that Baylor should consider themselves lucky.... got the calls all day long for the most part. They even said it led to 14 first half pts for them. Baylor fans can admit it, but some ISU fans still can't.

A certain mindset think denial of reality is macho and observing basic realities is somehow weak.

Others have a coping mechanism where it’s just easier to make themselves be happy with some self delusion. I actually envy that type sometimes but the world doesn’t improve if everyone lives like that, so big picture that’s not a great thing.

Others see inherent value in truth even when the truth really sucks or is a pain to live with.

 

[madguy30]

My lip reading skills aren’t great but pretty sure Campbell spent the entire TO screaming “WHAT THE **** WAS THAT?!” at any ref who dared to get close.

I think there was something like 'how can they compete!?' in there which is a fair question beyond the current game; how can a player who's worked so hard for this moment be made to feel like playing hard and challenging an opponent that's about twice his size is the wrong thing to do?

 

[FilthyShadow]

Worried he was going to get another 15 for unsportsman like conduct. He chewed them good to no prevail.

 

[madguy30]

Worried he was going to get another 15 for unsportsman like conduct. He chewed them good to no prevail.

Not penalizing him was probably the only way they could admit they were wrong without admitting they were wrong.

 

[swiacy]

3 laughable calls on Freyler, Reeder & Johnson with the block below the waist on a defender absolutely atrocious. But the 3rd quarter was our demise offensively. I remember how embarrassing the picture of Rhodes on his knees pleading with an official was. Had the same feeling when CMC went into hysterics on the sideline while the announcer stated he had a history of remaining calm. Justified or not it doesn’t help the team. His timeout to then enable him to get in an officials grill was the correct procedure. I expect he will have them motivated in Lawrence. They need to be.

 

[HFCS]

Not penalizing him was probably the only way they could admit they were wrong without admitting they were wrong.

They could’ve doubled down on it and thrown a few flags/ejected a few players with the same kinds of flags on Baylor, it’d still be wrong but less wrong than just spotting one team 14 points for no reason.

It would be easier to rationally defend.

There’s no rational defense for first half that makes them look impartial to the outcome.

 

[Nococy]

Not penalizing him was probably the only way they could admit they were wrong without admitting they were wrong.

that is sure sign by the official that they screwed up the call.

 

[clonedude]

3 laughable calls on Freyler, Reeder & Johnson with the block below the waist on a defender absolutely atrocious. But the 3rd quarter was our demise offensively. I remember how embarrassing the picture of Rhodes on his knees pleading with an official was. Had the same feeling when CMC went into hysterics on the sideline while the announcer stated he had a history of remaining calm. Justified or not it doesn’t help the team. His timeout to then enable him to get in an officials grill was the correct procedure. I expect he will have them motivated in Lawrence. They need to be.

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

It was nothing.

 

[clonedude]

It was nothing.

Why? Seriously, I don’t know what the rule is on that? Within 5 yds can you just level a receiver?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Why? Seriously, I don’t know what the rule is on that? Within 5 yds can you just level a receiver?

It's never called and penalties are subjective at times. The fact it was unnecessary roughness and not PI or holding is pretty clear evidence it was a crap call.

 

[Stormin]

Freyler targeting call was horrendous. Especially since it was not called on the field of play by a field official. That call came from the replay booth. Then the replay officials refuse to call Baylor for even worse infractions. Then the replay booth refused to overturn the horrendous chop block call against Johnson.

That crew is incompetent.