No. CPR and most of the rest of Tommy T's staff got let go...by Chiz. But CPR was only at Auburn one year as DC.
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No. CPR and most of the rest of Tommy T's staff got let go...by Chiz. But CPR was only at Auburn one year as DC.
i've been making this argument for weeks now. Obviously we're not going to get the best players, which means we have to develop the players that we do get. K-State doesn't recruit significantly better than us, but they keep winning under Snyder. If it can be done at K-State (who was so historically bad at football before him that they still have a losing record to ISU despite owning us for 25 or so years), it can be done at ISU with th right coach.
This is the problem though... you say CPR deserves more time to develop depth on the DL, LB, and OL.... but he's had 6 years already and he has led us to this point we are at now.
Why should he be trusted that he can build this depth when he hasn't been able to do it in his first 6 years?
I suppose in a creepy sort of way this is a compliment? I love facts. The only BCS coach to EVER lose back to back games to FCS schools and will keep his job...ever. Tell me what facts I am missing and don't like. I think the record speaks for itself, especially since the OSU win in 2011. I do not know if you were drinking last night while posting but you were bashing pretty much everyone about every thing. I don't know if there is some sort of complex you have or what.
Tech would be that constant. Up until a couple of years ago they had gone to bowl games something like 14 years in a row? Sorry, I am going from memory if that ends up not being a 'fact'. They had a couple of really good seasons but mostly in the 7 win area, mostly under Leach. Amazing what a good coach does.
I really think the excuses are terrible, the realignment thing and recruiting, the first time that was brought up was last year. I just feel there are people just reaching for an excuse because they like a guy. Seems like a lot of these excuses only apply to ISU it is almost as if the football gods have conspired against ISU. Freaking Duke has won 17 of their last 19 regular season games or something like that. DUKE! DUKE!
Things can get accomplished in Ames. McCarney while not a great coach was EXACTLY what was needed at the time. He laid a great foundation and actually had the fans set some expectations. We have a lot of older folks that have not broken out of the beat Iowa mentality. The younger generation of fans has and I think it is great to see so many people upset about the last few seasons. This means we have expectations and know we can do better.
I know CPR will be back so I will just wait until 2016 until I have any legit expectations for the Cyclone football team.
It would be wrong because of all the other sports. I am a basketball first fan, so I wouldn't want to see us go to a lesser conf. Unless you mean going to the Big Ten. I would consider that. However, in football, if we were in the big ten we would recruit like a big ten team. i.e. ******
I Think ALL Cyclone Fans Wanted Rhoads to Succeed
CPR is one of us. He grew up in Ankeny and I think all of us want him to succeed. I think the hope would be, even if he had great success at ISU, he would stick around and be our coach for 20 years.
The problem is we are in year six of his coaching tenure and our defense is a mess. We are being forced to play guys before they are ready. One could easily argue our talent level on defense is on par with ISU teams from the late 90's.
Does CPR deserve another year? Isn't six years enough? I can't think of a coach who took that long, but in the end developed a solid program. IMO giving CPR another year just pushes the job of rebuilding ISU out a year and a year behind KU.
CPR is one of us. He grew up in Ankeny and I think all of us want him to succeed. I think the hope would be, even if he had great success at ISU, he would stick around and be our coach for 20 years.
The problem is we are in year six of his coaching tenure and our defense is a mess. We are being forced to play guys before they are ready. One could easily argue our talent level on defense is on par with ISU teams from the late 90's.
Does CPR deserve another year? Isn't six years enough? I can't think of a coach who took that long, but in the end developed a solid program. IMO giving CPR another year just pushes the job of rebuilding ISU out a year and a year behind KU.
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Chiz was the DC for that undefeated season. He followed that up by going to Texas as co-DC. That team was also undefeated (and beat USC for the BCS title.)
Rhoads' top year as a DC could have been '07 at Pitt, when they beat #1 WVU in the Backyard Brawl. He then joined Tubberville at Auburn in '08. I think Tony Franklin was the OC, got canned after game 5 or so.
Leach finished every single season at Texas Tech with a winning record (10 years), usually winning 8 or 9 games. Consistently good, and occasionally great. Seasons 3-10 never had fewer than 8 wins.
I don't think anybody is rejecting your argument, but you can't deny that Snyder is a once-in-a-lifetime (maybe several lifetimes) type hire. He's one of the top coaches in the history of the game, and those guys don't fall out of trees.
They dont fall out of trees, or crawl out of a grave, as is the case with Snyder.
He may be a once in a lifetime guy, but his methods might be worth studying if we aren't already. I'm guessing they aren't a big secret.
The question is, COULD Hayden Fry have had the success he did WITHOUT following Commings (with everything happening the way that it did, including Kinnick improvements, etc.)? Moreover, what would Fry's record have been had he taken over IU at the time that Commings did?
Bob Commings quote: "It's a tougher job than I figured. No one outside of coaching has a concept of what it takes. I guess the answer still is that it takes time. There are so many things involved."
Bob Commings quote: "It's a tougher job than I figured. No one outside of coaching has a concept of what it takes. I guess the answer still is that it takes time. There are so many things involved."
Wouldn't say that. Iowa found Raisin-Face (who is indirectly responsible for K-State's success as that's where Wight Walker came from) when they were an even bigger dumpster fire of a program than ISU was. Texas Tech found Leach (and donors allowed their collective egos get in the way of keeping one of the best things that has ever happened to Taco Tech and ran him off). Missouri found Pinkel. Kansas found Mangino (well, until he got stupid). OSU found "I'm a Man!" Gundy. Hell - ISU found both Majors and Bruce.
The problem is this fan base gets too loyal to a floundering coach because "well, he's such a good guy and we've never won here anyway." If we ever want ISU to be better than a 6-win team at best, we as fans have to demand it, not keep good guys that had success years ago.
I'd rather lose a coach because they were having success than keep a coach because they aren't.
There are acres and acres of papers describing how to be a great teacher, and only a few people who actually are.
To be fair, the fanbase is demanding better than what exists now. A good chunk of fans want a new coach and another chunk think next season is a make or break year. It's not like a whole bunch of fans want Rhoads to be the coach forever regardless of record.
Tech wasnt, Missouri was part of the 5 without a home. Tech was going with texas Okie State and OU to the Pac
