So it's completely ok for you to attack the character of a person (Hadley), but to be attacked back is just ridiculous?
TJ Mutcherson/Angelo Hadley to ISU?!
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So it's completely ok for you to attack the character of a person (Hadley), but to be attacked back is just ridiculous?
I never said anything against his character. I was talking about his incident. I've said that multiple times but you can't get that through your thick head.
i think for kids with character flaws, Ames is a great place to be-way easier to stay out of trouble in a town like Ames, then say Tampa IMO. i would bet the coaching staff uses this when recruiting these types.
Once someone has paid whatever restitution is required by law for their past indiscretions then that person should be free to pursue being a productive member of society. That includes getting an education and playing football. If ISU gives him that opportunity there will certainly be a risk that he will dissappoint us, but that is true (most likely to a lessor degree) with any player regardless of their past.
If you give someone a second chance and they fail, does that reflect more poorly on the party given a second chance or the person willing to give him that opportunity?
I think the coaches get the chance top get to know these recruits pretty well and gauge the overall character. The overall culture of the program is clean and focused on doing things the right way. That culture can be used to help these kinds of 'at risk' kids stay in line, off the beaten path of the typical big city fast life and some of the inertia its distractions and problems. Some recruits could see that as a big plus - getting away from some pretty horrible urban situations and concentrate on football and getting an education.
I think the overall family atmosphere and clean program can provide an opportunity for a couple of these risks each year - if there is reasonable assurance that the kid is of the proper mindset and willing to do things that meet the culture's standards for accountability and responsibility. That said, there is line there somewhere that we do not want to cross where we are taking to many risks and there is too large a segment of risky players on the team that increases the likelihood that the bad apples will gravitate to each other and continue/revert into some bad habits, behaviors and decisions. This ultimately leads to team unity problems, off field problems and degrades the overall culture.
I think a program like ISU can afford one or two calculated risks in each class, and frankly, we probably will have a hard time moving up the ladder in the new Big XII without taking a few risks. I trust the staff and CPR to have a handle on knowing these kids and most of all keeping the culture one that kids RISE up to meet the standards for performance, effort and character. Some will make it and others - even those who didn't appear to bed 'bad eggs' when recuited - will not. There is honor is providing some kids a chance to put the past behind them and make a new life for themselves in a great situation.
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I really like this. And would add that if we do get burned we cannot say poor us. We knew the risk we were taking and took it.
I am all for second chances. The criminal justice system works to keep young criminals out of the pen as long as they believe the kids have learned their lesson.
I do not know if this is fact but someone said earlier that the parents of the girl wanted the court to not put this guy on the sex offender list. That alone says to me that there is a lot of things going on here. The parents hadn't completely written this kid off and neither should we!
I would just like to add these thoughts. What if there was no one that would offer a second chance? It is easy to say not in my back yard, but if everyone took that stance where would that lead? Wouldn't society be insuring that they fail in the future?
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This seems pretty simple to me:
CPR won't bring in anyone he believes will do anything to put embarass the University. He must have decided that this kid grew from it and is not prone to break the law again.
Plus, didn't we have this same conversation about Royce White? He seems to be on the straight-and-narrow now...
CPR won't bring in anyone he believes will do anything to put embarass the University. He must have decided that this kid grew from it and is not prone to break the law again.
Plus, didn't we have this same conversation about Royce White? He seems to be on the straight-and-narrow now...
I have a feeling that, just maybe, CPR and the rest of his staff (as well as the USF coaching staff) know the kid a little better and no just a bit more about this situation than you. I trust our coaches (and South Florida's coaches) opinions on this kid much more than somebody who just learned his name for the first time this morning.
If CPR wants him, then I want him too.
do we really have these kids committing or is it still just speculation? and also what is this about it counting vs. last yrs commits? can a school really do that? and do both these kid qualify?
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