We don't want you and we don't need you.
- Thread starter Cyclone29
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Sigh...
This team is bad, they are what their record says it is. There will be accountability AFTER the season, or a big part of the fanbase will lose faith in Paul Rhoads. NOBODY that I have read here has disputed any of this.
But what purpose does it serve? Other than being one of those "people" that isn't happy unless making others as miserable as you are.
But, Courtney Messingham will be on the staff through the next 5 games, as will Bill Bliel. Their fate will be determined after the season.
The fact that noone seems to ever understand that simple fact. and comes on here firing away, is what makes this nonsense posts like these, and constant ******** and whining is old.
Hey IF no changes are made after the season, then I will be critical also. But from today until after the WVU game, this is the team that we will put on the field, and these are the coaches that will lead them. That is the fact of all of this, and all of the complaining in the world won't change anything.
All of this comes down to culture. As an example, when someone walks into Busch Stadium, they expect quality baseball and a winning product on the field. When someone walks into Kauffman Stadium (last decade or so) or Marlins Ballpark, they expect nothing, and it can be felt in the air. For the first time in my time as an Iowa State fan, I walk into Jack Trice Stadium and see/hear/feel people EXPECTING to win; EXPECTING to be competitive; EXPECTING to turn the corner as a program, and they are MAD when this doesn't happen. There is a different, newer, more passionate buzz in the air. This is a good thing. This is one of the biggest steps of Iowa State turning the corner. This mindset of "we don't need you" displayed in this thread is the acceptance of mediocrity, and contributes to the overall culture of mediocrity that has plagued Iowa State since its inception as a football program. Iowa State NEEDS any fan they can get, and needs them to have expectations for this program, and be frustrated, mad, and vocal about their displeasure with the quality of play on the field exhibited in 2013. Players feed off of fans, and they feed off of the culture that exists around a team, a program, department, or institution. I'm not telling anyone to boo a team off the field, but saying "we don't need you" to fans expecting this program to keep rising with the momentum that comes with record wins, record crowds, and an overall rise in the stature of the program is accepting this program returning to its original status quo of an irrelevant bottomfeeder.
What are you talking about. Every fan on this site has been through the ups and downs of ISU. Most fans are frustrated with it.
I agree with most of the OP, but not the thread title. Well, at least the second half of the thread title.
I don't mind people being negative, but the fact that they carry it in to every single thread, even basketball threads, is just pathetic.
I have been consistent. Anyone with any analytic or logic could see after the Liberty Bowl that there needed to be changes. There were none. Everybody collected salaries that were magnitudes higher than _______(I just deleted my least-liked generic income-collectors).
We are not playing good football.....it is Walden-triple-option bad.
We are not playing good football.....it is Walden-triple-option bad.
So, fans have concerns and express them, they should leave? This worked well for bowling.
This is a forum for discussion, good and bad.
Actually, when fans lose the reason to post then we should be afraid, very afraid, as this means apathy, and as such they do not care anymore.
Who knows what the future holds and this is aprocess. Win some, the process is positive, lose more, it will continue.
I hope for all success, but there certainly are question marks. I had a fan approach me, a good and long time donor, who said, with tickets and donation (only for fb), I pay an average of $500-$600/game for this before I begin to enjoy the tailgate. Why?
That is the question being asked by many, at all levels of income and donation/ticket investment.
I want this program to succeed, but this is a valid discussion point.
This is a forum for discussion, good and bad.
Actually, when fans lose the reason to post then we should be afraid, very afraid, as this means apathy, and as such they do not care anymore.
Who knows what the future holds and this is aprocess. Win some, the process is positive, lose more, it will continue.
I hope for all success, but there certainly are question marks. I had a fan approach me, a good and long time donor, who said, with tickets and donation (only for fb), I pay an average of $500-$600/game for this before I begin to enjoy the tailgate. Why?
That is the question being asked by many, at all levels of income and donation/ticket investment.
I want this program to succeed, but this is a valid discussion point.
