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halaleezy

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Not quite a phone call a day...more like a phone call a week. But still, it's semantics. The bigger issue here, as you touched guys touched on, is that we were on probation until 2010. What the NCAA decides to do with that is anyone's guess. They're maddeningly inconsistent with their punishments.

I am also extremely grateful that the NCAA was snooping around on Baylor's campus tracking phone calls for 29 months with two of their five investigators while Miami was paying players in hookers and blow with nary an eye turned their way.
 
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Except this is Baylor we're talking about here. Baylor isn't Kentucky or Kansas or Ohio State. They're Iowa State or Kansas State.

The NCAA will come down hard as they can on them (I wouldn't be surprised to see a show-cause restriction put on Drew) just to have something to point to and say "see! We're fighting corruption and cheating! Our existence continues to be justified! Preserve Amateurism!"
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Baylor has no history, no tradition, and no one really cares if they are no longer a factor. Perfect patsy for the NCAA to lay the hammer to, and flex it's "muscle."

Also before Baylor "fan" chimes in... yes this we know this would most likely happen to us if we pulled this stunt.
 
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Sad....probably Mulkey would have got Briner anyway. Now, her special season will be tainted. yes, they still won it fair and square but that was unnecessary.
 
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Where were our compliance people during all of this? That's my main question. Apparently the bulk of the texts are from that email program that sends from your phone, Teleflip. Who green-lighted that?

My hope is that the NCAA is satisfied with our self-sanctions, but again...who knows? Knowing how much they love bringing the hammer down on non-bluebloods, they'll probably demand that we sacrifice Drew and Mulkey at the NCAA altar to appease the basketball gods.
 
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After reading though this it sounds like Baylor has picked a fall guy in their compliance officer and the NCAA is eating it up. I expect there to be penalties, but don't be surprised if they go light on the head coaches.

My personal opinion is how stupid are these coaches if they really "didn't know (they) were doing anything wrong"? You are sending a email from one phone to another and they didn't know that counted as contact? Really?!

The question I have is why has it taken this long for the NCAA to do something about this if the investigation started back in 2008? The NCAA allowed Baylor win a national title in basketball knowing that they might not be able to keep it because of violations? Is that fair to the other schools that were participating. This school cheated, we know they cheated, but we are going to allow them to participate anyway.
 
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Not to stray too far from the specific case here, but are NCAA rules adaptable to advancing technology?

It's impossible to dismiss the volume of improper calls & text, or claims of being "unaware." Is this an example of the lag between long-established rules and ease of contact makes it more possible to exploit that gap to a school's advantage, or is the spirit of established rules simply lost in the details?

I imagine current rules have evolved, but are still based on the days when there were essentially two ways to interact: in-person and by telephone (oh, and maybe fax :smile: I'm sure that was exploited quite often :pcute:).

Then came e-mail, texting, mobility ... what about Twitter or social networking like Facebook? Somebody will get nailed there eventually. Who knows what else is coming along.
 
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jaretac said:
After reading though this it sounds like Baylor has picked a fall guy in their compliance officer and the NCAA is eating it up. I expect there to be penalties, but don't be surprised if they go light on the head coaches.

My personal opinion is how stupid are these coaches if they really "didn't know (they) were doing anything wrong"? You are sending a email from one phone to another and they didn't know that counted as contact? Really?!

The question I have is why has it taken this long for the NCAA to do something about this if the investigation started back in 2008? The NCAA allowed Baylor win a national title in basketball knowing that they might not be able to keep it because of violations? Is that fair to the other schools that were participating. This school cheated, we know they cheated, but we are going to allow them to participate anyway.
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The coaches obviously weren't properly informed of the rules, some low-level lackey's head will roll for this!
 
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According to the article, the NCAA investigation began in 2008 and was concluded last October. Following the conclusion of the investigation, Baylor was allowed to play in a bowl game, collect a Heisman trophy, win a women's NCAA basketball title, and go far in the men's NCAA basketball tournament.

Is it any wonder why so many universities feel that the huge benefits of cheating far outweigh the relatively minor costs of getting caught? The NCAA is responsible for creating this cess pool - they are the problem!
 
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cyclonestate said:
According to the article, the NCAA investigation began in 2008 and was concluded last October. Following the conclusion of the investigation, Baylor was allowed to make the NCAA a bunch of money byplaying in a bowl game, collect a Heisman trophy, win a women's NCAA basketball title, and go far in the men's NCAA basketball tournament.
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The bold addition is why slaps on the wrist for most every violation will continue to occur. (Not exclusive to Baylor)
 
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