Either way the information is useful. If he doesn’t let us in, we can leave a flaming bag of dog turds on his porch.
Where Will ISU End Up if the Big 12 Implodes?
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Hopefully in the 16 team league future, you would play all 7 teams in your division, 4 teams in the other division (alternating every other year), and then one non-conference game, every year. How fun would that be? Meaningful games all year
West:
Kbooo
Nebby
Flecks
ISU
Hawks
Bucky
Northwestern
Fat Bret
That's a 5.5 hr drive for the longest road trip in the division
Kbooo
Nebby
Flecks
ISU
Hawks
Bucky
Northwestern
Fat Bret
That's a 5.5 hr drive for the longest road trip in the division
Actually, I think that's a pretty solid map. Sorry WV. You'd have made it even more so, but 16 is the stopping point.
See, that makes, like, perfect sense, so of course everyone agrees that it's an almost impossible outcome.
i didnt realize how similar ISUs logo is to Ohio STs until just now.
Well, we would never get an invite to the Big 10 out of the blue. But if the SEC is going to 16 teams and the Big 10 thinks the Pac 12 will follow suit, they may feel the need to jump to 16 now also so that they can get their choice of the Big 12 leftovers before the Pac 12 gets them. With Texas and Oklahoma apparently off the table for them, and ACC schools and Notre Dame looking unlikely for contractual reasons, that leaves only the Big 12 and non-P5 schools. If that's what the Big 10 is left to choose from, we have a fighting chance at least.
Your right, the Big 10 doesn't need to add teams, but if they think the Pac 12 is going to add teams, then they probably will do so as well in order to make sure they get their pick first.
Well we would certainly help fill stadiums in Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern. Probably still bring a lot of fans to Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
We churn out about 30,000 grads a year so I’d guess our subscription numbers would be pretty good. Have a rabid fan base that sells out.
Grant money - not very familiar with this but I think we do decent.
Eyeballs watching the game - I think our bowl game has great numbers and we typically do pretty well even in smaller games.
Program relevance - pretty good in both
Regional fit - I’m not sure how much they care anymore about this, but I always think about sports like softball and volleyball and wrestling where it gets prohibitive to fly all these teams to the west or east coast for games.
Donor money/AD revenue is where I think we lack the most
Probably part of the problem. Stadium sizes in the big 12 are tiny compared to sec and big 10. Before covid Tennessee's attendance was "down" at like 88,000.
So still better than half the teams? Not sure Illinois counts when 50% of the stadium is empty.
I sincerely hope you are right. If there is financial benefit to adding KU and Iowa State you'd think the Big Ten would jump at the opportunity before the Pac 12 does. That just takes us back to the elephant in the room however - Does adding Iowa State (and KU) provide a financial benefit to the BIG? I'm not sure of that answer I am sure that is being discussed as we speak.
Big 10, right or wrong, could decide it's in a good competitive position and doesn't want anymore teams. But they could come under pressure to accept some teams. BIG would hold existing team payouts harmless at worst, and force any new school (ISU, KU) to take anything that's left that is less than other schools in BIG. In this scenario, hopefully, revenues would ramp up in succeeding years.
