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dirtyninety

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I dont believe he is gone. However i will play the game. We should hire Navys coach and run the triple option. Its working at georgia tech. It gives us a chance to play with more talented teams. We are running the same offense as teams with more talent. Triple option with a true triple option coach would be a good hire.

I will give two answers: Firstly, I was going to say the weakness of the triple option is that any coach worth his salt with more than a week to prepare for it and pretty much negate it and punish the quarterback. It is a gimmick offense to catch a team off balance with on a short week. We would not want to get manhandled when other teams have time to prepare for our team.......then I remembered CPR's record when other teams have time to prepare for us and I know it cannot be worse.

My real answer: NFW. I lived through Walden already.
 

MayorsCabinet

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Mangino is 58. 58!!! Take a look at Bill Snyder. That guy is 164 years old and still knows how to win games. I'm all for hiring some 20-something "offensive guru" but let's be realistic. The odds of that happening and us actually succeeding with it, are very very slim.
 

CYphyllis

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**** it, throw a ton of money at Leech. Yeah, they may still suck at the game of football but at least the post game press conferences would be worth listening to.
 

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Mangino is 58. 58!!! Take a look at Bill Snyder. That guy is 164 years old and still knows how to win games. I'm all for hiring some 20-something "offensive guru" but let's be realistic. The odds of that happening and us actually succeeding with it, are very very slim.

This X1000. Realistically, Mangino best fit. People saying this year's offense is just as bad as last year are dilusional.
 

isucy86

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Chizik was unproven head coach. All the other canidates were GREAT head coaches.
Just think how bad JP is at making coaching hires when he hires the worst of the 4.
Several of us were begging for Harbaugh.
At the time Harbaugh was a name because of his NFL playing days, but his success was ar a school that plays Drake. Kelly was the head coach at Grand Valley State. Chizek had outstanding defenses at Auburn and Texas- at the time he was a great get.
 

isucy86

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I will give two answers: Firstly, I was going to say the weakness of the triple option is that any coach worth his salt with more than a week to prepare for it and pretty much negate it and punish the quarterback. It is a gimmick offense to catch a team off balance with on a short week. We would not want to get manhandled when other teams have time to prepare for our team.......then I remembered CPR's record when other teams have time to prepare for us and I know it cannot be worse.

My real answer: NFW. I lived through Walden already.
GA. Tech runs the option and is rated in the top 25 in the ACC. Navy gave Notre Dame some tough games over the last few years. Last time I looked, at least 9 games are played with 1 week to prepare- so having a gimmick offense or defense isn't a bad thing. Leach and Mangino had their sucess in the early 2000's because the spread was a gimmick offense then. Now, the vast majority of teams are running it and recruiting the same kids.
 

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Is there any chance at all that Tom Herman would listen? If I were him I don't think I would because he will get a LOT more big time offers I'm guessing.

Granted, our offense wasn't all that great with him either, so who knows? It might just be that whoever comes here is destined for failure.

If not Herman then I would maybe go for Frost or the Utah State guy Wells. Possibly Bohl, but he hasn't done much for Wyoming this year, so maybe he's not the answer in the Big 12 either.

Are there any guys out there that graduated from ISU, or played here, or coached here that would love to come back like Rhoads did? I would like to see someone here that loves ISU as much as Rhoads does, but is a better head coach. Too bad Rosenfels doesn't have any experience at all. If he did, I'd go with him in a heartbeat.
 

AuH2O

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Chizik was unproven head coach. All the other canidates were GREAT head coaches.
Just think how bad JP is at making coaching hires when he hires the worst of the 4.
Several of us were begging for Harbaugh.

I wanted Harbaugh too, but I'm usually just all in for the superficial splash hire. To be fair, at the time Harbaugh had a few years of success at a school at the same level as Drake. To also be fair, Kelly or Harbaugh probably would've bolted at the first opportunity after a couple 6 win seasons, so we'd be right where we are.
 

volclone

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All that matters is finding someone who can recruit. I don't care if they want to run the single wing. Just get some talent to Ames. We don't have MAC level depth or talent right now--we have some spots (Lazard) but that's about all.
 

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The only and I mean the only coach that is going to be successful here at ISU is a coach that is superior at recruiting and developing O and Dlines, period. We cannot nor will we ever be able to out recruit the top big 12 schools at the skill positions, ever, so what we need is a KF type, and spare me the KF crap, the guy is a Oline genius and puts more players in the nfl than any other college coach. We had our greatest o lines under MAC and that's because Steve Loney was here. Ever since he left we've had some awful line coaches and our program has been awful too.

Go hire a HC who can recruit and develop the lines and everything else will take care of itself.
 

volclone

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The only and I mean the only coach that is going to be successful here at ISU is a coach that is superior at recruiting and developing O and Dlines, period. We cannot nor will we ever be able to out recruit the top big 12 schools at the skill positions, ever, so what we need is a KF type, and spare me the KF crap, the guy is a Oline genius and puts more players in the nfl than any other college coach. We had our greatest o lines under MAC and that's because Steve Loney was here. Ever since he left we've had some awful line coaches and our program has been awful too.

Go hire a HC who can recruit and develop the lines and everything else will take care of itself.

Post of the year. Very well said.
 

isucy86

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The only and I mean the only coach that is going to be successful here at ISU is a coach that is superior at recruiting and developing O and Dlines, period. We cannot nor will we ever be able to out recruit the top big 12 schools at the skill positions, ever, so what we need is a KF type, and spare me the KF crap, the guy is a Oline genius and puts more players in the nfl than any other college coach. We had our greatest o lines under MAC and that's because Steve Loney was here. Ever since he left we've had some awful line coaches and our program has been awful too.

Go hire a HC who can recruit and develop the lines and everything else will take care of itself.

You nailed it. The key to success at ISU isn't the type of offense or defense. It's finding a coach who has a strong team in the trenches. A good o-line helps build a stong d-line and the reverse is also true. Even in the pass happy Big 12, the key is a good run defense to make the offense one dimensional.
 

jbindm

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Pep Hamilton, offensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts. His name is currently on the list of NFL coordinators likely to interview for head coaching jobs this offseason, but he might not be opposed to returning to the college ranks. Last year he nearly took the Vandy job. His recent stops -

2011-2012 - Offensive coordinator at Stanford
2013-present - Offensive coordinator for the Colts

The most appealing part are his strong ties to the talent rich Washington DC/Baltimore area. The problem is that if Indy keeps rolling up 40 ppg this season he's not coming to Ames or any other college campus.
 

DuckDynastyCy

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A QB that hasn't developed quick enough, he's 0-12 as a starter in the Big 12.

So, having a NON existent running game has nothing to do with W-L record? Having a ****** OL has nothing to do with it? Learning his 2nd offensive system - SR is not the problem. The OL and lack of running game (and WR's being out) is the problem. Some of you W-L guys always pointed to the fact that GR had a .500 record so he should start....hows's that looking after yesterday?
 

Wesley

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Next Clowns Coach?
Howdy Doody
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Sorry, you meant Clones coach.