Nice to know we finally have someone on the boards that is a personal friend to Turner Gill :dull:
Why ISU gets Gill....
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Nice to know we finally have someone on the boards that is a personal friend to Turner Gill :dull:
Fair enough. But...the coaching carousel goes around and around, always changing. What people say in the past about different positions is in the past. Not negating your reasoning...everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but I think there have been enough better reasons floating out there right now on why he would take it.
i see where you are coming from. however at this point in time, even though ISU is a bcs school, buffalo is a better built program than ISU. He would be taking a huge risk in coming to ISU. chizik got out of ISU in one of the weirdest ways i have ever seen, thats not gonna happen too often. Gill would be wiser to stick around Buffalo for a year or two and see what other job opens up. im sorry im not trying to sound mean but he really has a chance to be a big time coach at a big time school.
I don't see how you can say Buffalo has a better built program than ISU. They've typically been a bottom feeder, and Buffalo owes a lot to Gill, but they are always going to be a MAC team with MAC resources. Coaches view those jobs as the stepping stones in the nation. To me, just because he gave that program a little success doesn't mean that it is better built. He would be getting into a BCS school with a lot of possibility at Iowa State. He does have a chance to be a big time coach...but why not at Iowa State? He has stated that he has done all he can at Buffalo...so it sounds like he is ready to move up now. One more year could also kill his chances of making it big if it wasn't as successful as this year (he set a higher mark that is more difficult to reach).
And no hard feelings, I don't think you are trying to sound mean. Friendly discussion is always welcome.
i have followed Gills career since before he left NU and judging by prior actions and comments i just dont see him going to ISU.
Gill's reps speaking to Pollard says he has a lot of interest...no way he wants to be used in the interview process like he considers he was at Auburn.
yes another year could kill his chances but if it does then that means he probably wouldnt have been a good head coach anyway.
i say that right now buffalo is better off because they are a bowl team. chizik left ISU in a bad spot and Buffalo is really at its highest point in history having just won their conference and beaten Ball state who at the time was top 15. yes ISU has a better upside if they ever achieve it but buffalo is currently in better shape program wise.
Yeah, but who are you going to believe, Turner Gill's rep or a Husker internet troll.
Eh...I see where you could get that, but still going back to the MAC and MAC resources...a bad year there doesn't necessarily mean that he is a bad coach and wouldn't succeed with better resources and talent pool. I think it means it is time for him to get out now while his stock is on the rise.
Buffalo is better than ISU at this present time...but not overall. Tons more advantages here being in the Big 12, great fans, and a great AD.
I think it is very silly for you to expect Gill to turn away a 500% increase in salary and a shot at a big12 job when other schools have only toyed with him.
I understand why Huskers don't want him to come, but if you were in his position I'm pretty sure its a no-brainer. If he doesn't come to ISU it is for one of two reasons.
1. He wasn't offered the job.
2. He is aware he is a front runner for a better job.
Tell you the truth I want Gill because I think ISU needs an African American coach to compete with recruiting inner city kids. We aren't exactly a Mecca of diversity. Jamie needs to hire an African American because he has removed two of ISU's major coaches and replaced them with white people.
Lastly, why did someone bury a Husker fan alive in your sig pic? Not that I am against the idea, just wondered whats up with it.
Thanks for being the voice of reason. You're right, an 8-5 season in a down MAC Conference with a home loss to Kent St doesn't quantify as turning a program around.
Buffalo was consistantly at the top of the ESPN bottom 10 for years. It isn't even subjective, they literally were the worst team in Division 1 college football. Even his first season with two wins was an above average season for that team, five wins was excellent and this year was a miracle.
Whether or not it translates, the guy did something at Buffalo that few newcomers probably could.
Huskerman, the only thing I really have to say is that, despite what has been said in the past, its hard to say it won't happen. We were told we werent going to get chiziked by chiz, but, well you know how that story goes. Ill believe we're not getting him when we hear it from an official source. (No, I dont think he is the only option, just stating that I dont buy into the rumor mill)
Then if you were an Auburn fan you would be ecstatic? You have just hired a coach with back-to-back seasons. A 5-19 record. The year before ISU gets Chizik we have 4 wins. Chizik's first year we get 3 wins. Chizik's second year we get 2 wins. Now THAT is turning things around. I think that Chizik was getting better players. But he was coaching like Bill Callahan. We lost games this year that a decent coach would have won.
I think Turner Gill is a good fit. Nebraska has Bo Pellini who has done a decent job this year. That Nebraska dream job may not open up for Gill. We might be a pretty good option at this point in his career. Think about it. A Texas high schooler who transplants himself to Nebraska. And is at Nebraska for years. Finally decides he needs to make a move to further his coaching career. ISU is NOT a bad situation. We are improving facilities. We have a pretty loyal fan base. We have a good young nucleus of players. A returning QB who was decent. And an excellent place to raise a family. I am not locked into any one candidate. But I really think that Gill is a good fit. I have done some reading on Turner Gill. He is all about character and class. His college career has been all about character and class. His coaching career is all about character and class. If he is hired, he may leave some day. But that is the nature of coaching. But he also may stay even if he is successful. Because he is all about character and class.
This Chizik fiasco could turn into a positive. I feel better about Gill than any of the other candidates. Plus I feel better that he might stay for a long time. Unless of course the Nebraska job opened up. But I just don't see that happening for a while.
