Would you hold it against Rhoads if he left for a better job?

[wright4cy]

I think if he left now ...or next year ... Yes I would want to understand ,but as bad as it would make me feel I dont know that I could recover very quickly .. But I do love him as coach , team loves him , and fans love him ... I would feel as though we had all been tricked again.?Honestly this has to be yea for me wish it wasnt but part of the appeal is how honest and excited he really is to be here.Not gonna happen though .... Not anytime soon.:biggrin:

 

[Erik4Cy]

Yes, but he ain't goin' nowhere. I really hope he can turn into a "lifer" here at Iowa State as our head fb coach.

 

[Swanson10]

Yes, but he ain't goin' nowhere. I really hope he can turn into a "lifer" here at Iowa State as our head fb coach.

As much as any school would like that, those days are over. The days of a coach staying at a school for 5+ years, if not fired, are basically over. The longest I see a coach staying at one school, and especially with Carroll leaving with what he had, is about 7-8 years. Coaches are all about the money and the next best thing or challenge these days. As sad as that is to say, it's true.
If the opportunity comes up, AFTER the first 5 years of his contract, he will be gone and if he hasn't produced what fans want by then, well he should be gone after that anyways.

Schedule or not. I am sick of future schedules being an excuse. Man the F Up! There is a reason the games are played. I realize it is going to be a tough couple of years, but half/majority of you are already calling for losses. Get freaking real. Out of all the excuses fans can/could come up with, the schedule, should never be one of them.
Rant over and with the Jim Rome impressions on the site, Rack Me!

 

[singsing]

If PR accomplishes what he wants at ISU I see no reason for him to leave. It's all about winning and if he can some how win a conference championship ISU will be a job people want. Bill Snyder and what he accomplished at K-State is a perfect example. Look at Leach at Tech. He turns them into a proven winner and they have to run him out of there. His replacement is one of the most sought after coaches in college football. I have faith in PR and I think he'll win and want to stay a while.

 

[CyFever]

Whether now, or years in the future after great success or failure, yes part of me will be ****** when Rhoads leaves for greener pastures. The illogical part of me.

 

[CycloneErik]

Yes.

Look, this team is personal for us. If it isn't personal to our coaches then that hurts. Every coach who hasn't left is gonna say all the right stuff. If they leave before accomplishing anything then it hurts, because you know they lied. (see Chizik)... And by them leaving, it proves that loving ISU wasn't as personal to them as it is to us. That is why you would hold it against Rhoads, or any other coach.

This is exactly what I would think. Rhoads really has brought some pride back to our little Cyclone nation. We think about this team with hope and anticipation, and a lot of it is because he's at the helm, and we've bought into him as the leader of the program.

I know he's not rumored anywhere, and I don't expect him to be, but that one would hurt.

 

[tejasclone]

You got to give Monty a REAL challenge...like...let's see...relating JP to the time dilation of a relativistic particle.

(Free rep if you can actually find a way to relate time dilation to JP)

The phrase time dilation of a relativistic particle clearly contains the letters P, O, L, L, A, R, and D, as indicated above, cleverly disguised to hide your sinister portent.

In addition, the phrase contains 35 letters, and Jamie Pollard looks about 35 years old. (How old is he, anyway?)

 

[Al_4_State]

This is right on the money.

He's not an Iowa State grad or anything.

He has to do what's best for him and his career. Coaching is a business. Not a lot of room for loyalty. Unfortunately, Iowa State is never going to be a marquee job.

Florida State wasn't a marquee job when Bobby Bowden got there. Penn State wasn't a marquee job when Joe Pa got there. Iowa wasn't a marquee job when Kirk Ferentz got there (it still isn't, but it might be when he leaves).

My point is that if a coach WANTS to turn a place into a marquee job, they can, provided they're winning games. If Paul Rhoads keeps winning games at Iowa State, it has the potential to be a marquee job, if he wants to stay. Look at Nebraska. Lincoln, Nebraska offers nothing that Ames doesn't, yet there is a winning tradition that allows them to pull in top notch recruits. If a coach stayed at ISU and kept winning games, ISU could reach that point.

 

[Tedcyclone]

yes because he is someone i honestly believe that would stay in ames forever... and actually loves it. if he goes, there is no hope, ever.

 

[tamjam]

Is there any chance or worry that CPR's name will come up in the Tennesse coaching search?

 

[CycloneErik]

Florida State wasn't a marquee job when Bobby Bowden got there. Penn State wasn't a marquee job when Joe Pa got there. Iowa wasn't a marquee job when Kirk Ferentz got there (it still isn't, but it might be when he leaves).

My point is that if a coach WANTS to turn a place into a marquee job, they can, provided they're winning games. If Paul Rhoads keeps winning games at Iowa State, it has the potential to be a marquee job, if he wants to stay. Look at Nebraska. Lincoln, Nebraska offers nothing that Ames doesn't, yet there is a winning tradition that allows them to pull in top notch recruits. If a coach stayed at ISU and kept winning games, ISU could reach that point.

I would rep this all day long if I could. This is exactly right.

As Jim Frey said when they put in the lights at Wrigley, "Every tradition started sometime."

 

[Clonebydesign]

Very much so, he has alot invested in ISU and likewise us in him.

 

[mj4cy]

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

 

[cyhiphopp]

If Rhoads were ever to leave, I believe it would be after he accomplished something significant at ISU. That would make the situation much different than the Chizik debacle.

The backbone of the Chizik experiment was that most realiastic people knew that he would leave, but we thought that noone would come after him until he had at least a winning season and more likely, a few very good seasons. It was the perfect s--t storm that led to Chizik being hired by Auburn.

Auburn had a very good coach in Tommy Tubberville who had had a lot of success at AU. For some reason they continually undercut him and openly looked to hire other coaches, including Bobby Petrino I believe. In an effort to bring in a high flying offense, TT and Auburn hired Tony Franklin as the OC in 2008. The 2008 offense was a complete disaster leading to a 5-7 season and TT "resigning". This left Auburn in a position where they immediately needed to find a new headcoach. They apparently missed on their top choices and ended up looking at their former golden boy Chizik. Chizik is someone they could control who they were hoping the Auburn fanbase would remember fondly despite his horrible head coaching record. They made the right OC hire with Guz Malzahn and had some decent success this season.

In general, most high profile programs do not hire unproven coaches. The Chizik situation was very rare. If Chizik had stayed 4 years and left after a 9 win season, a lot more of us would be ok with how he left.

 

[XLK9]

If Rhoads were ever to leave, I believe it would be after he accomplished something significant at ISU. That would make the situation much different than the Chizik debacle.

The backbone of the Chizik experiment was that most realiastic people knew that he would leave, but we thought that noone would come after him until he had at least a winning season and more likely, a few very good seasons. It was the perfect s--t storm that led to Chizik being hired by Auburn.

Auburn had a very good coach in Tommy Tubberville who had had a lot of success at AU. For some reason they continually undercut him and openly looked to hire other coaches, including Bobby Petrino I believe. In an effort to bring in a high flying offense, TT and Auburn hired Tony Franklin as the OC in 2008. The 2008 offense was a complete disaster leading to a 5-7 season and TT "resigning". This left Auburn in a position where they immediately needed to find a new headcoach. They apparently missed on their top choices and ended up looking at their former golden boy Chizik. Chizik is someone they could control who they were hoping the Auburn fanbase would remember fondly despite his horrible head coaching record. They made the right OC hire with Guz Malzahn and had some decent success this season.

In general, most high profile programs do not hire unproven coaches. The Chizik situation was very rare. If Chizik had stayed 4 years and left after a 9 win season, a lot more of us would be ok with how he left.

You hit the mark here.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Rhoads won't go anywhere until he wins a north title, and even then I doubt he leaves.

 

[3Cheers4LkyJack]

Rhoads won't go anywhere until he wins a north title, and even then I doubt he leaves.

If that is the case, he might be here forever......

 

[cyhiphopp]

If that is the case, he might be here forever......

You are a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day.

 

[everyyard]

What if a premier program came callling? Would you hold it against him for going?

before or after he had more success here?

 

[PGreen ISU '92]

Coach Chizik getting the Auburn job after going 5-19 in two years was an anomaly. In my opinion, it would take a perennial Top 20 national power to come calling for Coach Rhoads to even consider leaving Iowa State. For that to happen he is going to have to be successful at Iowa State; and if that happens we all win. Obviously, the best case scenario is for us to have unprecedented success and Coach Rhoads still doesn’t want to leave Iowa State ala Kirk Ferentz at Iowa.