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Cyforce

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ND St. has managed 3 straight national championships at their level competing against rosters filled with southern speed. You can't beat those teams with speed games unless you're Ohio St. or Michigan. ND St. wins the point of attack and continues to pound away. Most of there passes were boots set up by the power game. I've always said the first ingredient needed for a good defense is a great offensive line. I'd find a coach that understands you play the hand you're dealt.
 

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Based on history (not my opinion)... Iowa State is a horrid football program. Our MO is getting 6 weak wins and going to bowl games in wretched cities like Shreveport and Memphis. If we go 2-10, but we beat Iowa, the season is deemed a success.

It doesn't matter who we bring in, they will not get 10 wins. It's never happened. It never will. So, perhaps it's time we bring down our expectations, come back to reality, and hope that Paul is prepping the troops for the Iowa game. Forget next week and the rest of the season. We don't need to fire Paul. He's successfully executing the strategy of a miserable program.

In summary, college football is a waste of time, money, and emotion for Iowa State fans. Store up all of those things. Take a few extra shots of Wild Turkey on Saturdays and get ready for basketball season - November is near.

Agree. Love your analysis. We don't need to fire Paul. He's successfully executing the strategy of a miserable program.

I've followed ISU football for many, many years and have been amazed at the resiliency of the fan base. One unexpected win is worth years of continued hope. To prove how miserable our football program is, just recall the incredible excitement and following we have when we go 6-6 and go to the bottom feeder bowl games.

I used to think that our lack of proximity to a larger population base was the problem, but getting our *ss handed to us by smaller market lower level schools like UNI and NDS tell me it's coaching and culture. We obviously lack both.
 

scyclonekid

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What makes coaching any different than other everyday jobs? If i do a bad job I get fired, but a coach gets a whole season to be bad or seasons? It's ******** our program is in shambles, but yet he keeps his job?
 

cygrads

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What makes coaching any different than other everyday jobs? If i do a bad job I get fired, but a coach gets a whole season to be bad or seasons? It's ******** our program is in shambles, but yet he keeps his job?

Most of us don't have a contract with a huge buyout.
 

Wesley

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As an AD you start going to practices if you don't already. If the staff has lost the team you pull the plug in season if not you ride out the season while exploring options of how to get out of it if necessary.
If rumors are true, JP needs to be out there.
 

clonedude

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Yes, go look for the thread from Friday.

Why don't you just tell us what the rumors are?

Is practice just a total joke or what? Are the inmates running the asylum? Why should JP be attending practices?
 

swarthmoreCY

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Here's the issue. ISU FB is in this vicious recruiting cycle that is proving impossible to break out of. If one of my 4 boys turns out to be some 4 star recruit (obviously they won't) I can guarantee I wouldn't advise him to go to ISU unless he had 0 other offers. ISU FB is a place that offers little upside. How much easier is it to shine when you play with 10 other competent players? I don't care how good of linebacker you are, if you dline and secondary suck you are going to look terrible. Why on earth would someone choose ISU?
Blaming recruiting is silly after you lose to NDSU and UNI. Is looking terrible why Smith, Klein, and George were 1st team All-Conference?

And to think I was worried that another loss to an FCS school would stop the butt-hurt trolls.
 

swarthmoreCY

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ND St. has managed 3 straight national championships at their level competing against rosters filled with southern speed. You can't beat those teams with speed games unless you're Ohio St. or Michigan. ND St. wins the point of attack and continues to pound away. Most of there passes were boots set up by the power game. I've always said the first ingredient needed for a good defense is a great offensive line. I'd find a coach that understands you play the hand you're dealt.
Yep, CPR may be more "like us" than Chizik, but he did not have much better, if any, plan on how he was going to win. He did have better defensive assistants, but I'd take McFarland back. CPR wasted some good maulers on the Oline when he arrived. Tried to make AA into Todd Reesing or Chase Daniels. Besides being harder to execute and being high risk/low reward, our offense necessitates we use a lot of scholarships on WR.
 

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As Rhoads said, it isn't the ones you don't get that hurt. It's the ones you do get and don't work out that hurt. There is attrition in every program but it hurts more at ISU because we will never have enough quality depth. We need guys to be in the program for four or five years, learning and building themselves up. But we don't get that because of attrition. Young guys are pressed into service sooner than when they are ready.

i have heard this every year, I am getting sick of it. At some point these 'young' guys that were pressed into service earlier should be old right? Maybe our guys are not good. Maybe the recruiting is worse since Chizik is gone. Last year was the first full season of Rhoads recruits, we went 3-9. We are looking at probably 2-10 this year. 5-19 in years 5 and 6 of the Rhoads era is not good.
 

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If I'm the AD, I hope I'm not freaking stupid enough to base my evaluations one one injury riddled season and a single game of the next.

Dang Chicken Littles.
 

swarthmoreCY

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If I'm the AD, I hope I'm not freaking stupid enough to base my evaluations one one injury riddled season and a single game of the next.

Dang Chicken Littles.
That game was not lost yesterday, but rather the years leading up to it. Last year was not bad because of injuries, but years of poor development, poor hiring decisions, and poor schemes.

Just one season and one game? Get real. Look at the past 30 games. We wasted away our peak because Rhoads did not have a ******* clue on offense. When you get curb stomped by FCS teams two years in a row, it let's you know many other loses were not just due to the inherent disadvantages of being the northern school in the Big 12.

It really incriminates CPR's program when apparently our center is the only leader in the program.
 

Cychl82

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Ill admit i lost my cool yesterday and then drank heavily after the game. I dont even know how to react to that game now that ive calmed down. I love CPR as our coach....but he has to start winning....he has too or things could get ugly especially if there is some chance he loses his locker room
 

dahliaclone

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Ill admit i lost my cool yesterday and then drank heavily after the game. I dont even know how to react to that game now that ive calmed down. I love CPR as our coach....but he has to start winning....he has too or things could get ugly especially if there is some chance he loses his locker room

bingo. i love him too. but take away his personality and put in any other really with the same results and people would be calling for his head. at some point the wins have to start rolling despite being a great guy.
 

norcalcy

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That game was not lost yesterday, but rather the years leading up to it. Last year was not bad because of injuries, but years of poor development, poor hiring decisions, and poor schemes.

Just one season and one game? Get real. Look at the past 30 games. We wasted away our peak because Rhoads did not have a ******* clue on offense. When you get curb stomped by FCS teams two years in a row, it let's you know many other loses were not just due to the inherent disadvantages of being the northern school in the Big 12.

It really incriminates CPR's program when apparently our center is the only leader in the program.

Got to agree here. 4-10 record that last two full years plus yesterday AT HOME. Speaking for myself, I can't imagine doing my job without being held to some kind of standard. A bunch of people making six figure incomes plus one guy making a seven figure income sure ought to measured by something, especially after five plus years.
 
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