He definitely heads up the all underrated/underappreciated team. He was a little before my time but I know enough to know how good he was and the impact he had as Johnny's first big time player.
Who is the greatest Cyclone of all-time?
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He definitely heads up the all underrated/underappreciated team. He was a little before my time but I know enough to know how good he was and the impact he had as Johnny's first big time player.
80's Grayer
90's Hoiberg
00's Fizer
10 Niang
Morris is a close second
90's Hoiberg
00's Fizer
10 Niang
Morris is a close second
Will there be a gift shop? Can I get bobbleheads of them there?
Ha, pretty good list for a young man who was a baby in in 2000. Thumbs up.
I'll add:
50's Gary Thompson
60's Zaid Abdul-Aziz
70's The Dark Decade. Andrew Parker followed by Heft or Ivy?
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If Fred Hoiberg doesn't play basketball for Johnny Orr there is no Johnny Orr as we know him today. If there is no Fred Hoiberg the player there is no Fred Hoiberg the coach and there is no Georges Niang except maybe trolling us on twitter as a hok alum.
I was there for the Grayer years. He deserves to be #1 player. No one had a bigger impact.
Niang was our best ambassador for sure. His personality was an amazing asset for the program.
If we want to consider coaches as well, Johnny Orr has to be #1. The program was abysmal before he came to Ames. He instilled a brand of basketball that has become synonymous with Iowa State basketball and Johnny was the creator of "Hilton Magic".
Niang was our best ambassador for sure. His personality was an amazing asset for the program.
If we want to consider coaches as well, Johnny Orr has to be #1. The program was abysmal before he came to Ames. He instilled a brand of basketball that has become synonymous with Iowa State basketball and Johnny was the creator of "Hilton Magic".
No I do not remember that, I am 28.
Also, I was purely talking about Grayer's game. He is the best person to ever play basketball at Iowa State University.
Fair enough. Here's an interesting question: If Fizer stays for his senior year would he be the greatest cyclone of all time?
The problem with all of these all-time lists is lack of familiarity with players the farther back you go. There is always a bias toward more recent players. Has anyone even mentioned Zaid Abdul-Aziz?
Huh time. Hilton Magic came before Fred with Grayer, Stevens, Hornacek and company. Started with Stevens and established with the 1986 "Boys Versus Men" NCAA game in Minneapolis which gave us the national spotlight beating Michigan.
Ya but Fred was the turning point, the golden goose. If he would have gotten away that would have all been for nothing.
Curious? Why do you say this? Or are you just being funny (the last part of your statement is a horrifying thought, LOL)? Coach Orr had a pretty good run going and only coached Fred for 3 of his 4 seasons at Iowa State? Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic...?
Barry Stephens, Ron Virgil and Ronny Harris made going to games fun for the first time ever. Barry was a great shooter.
There's probably no Loren Meyer either if no Fred. Seriously Fred committing to the good guys was the biggest thing to ever happen to ISU athletics-wise.
