link to this being part of the contract going forward
Forgive me, but anyone who that 200000 people will pay 20 a game 4-5 times a year doesn’t have a great deal of credibility
If the B12 remains intact and moves forward
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link to this being part of the contract going forward
Forgive me, but anyone who that 200000 people will pay 20 a game 4-5 times a year doesn’t have a great deal of credibility
Not really....OSU would NEVER let Cinci in the B1G and their academics lock them out of the ACC and PAC. As those would be our only 3 realistic options for conference jumping it doesn't impact us in that regard at all.
When those teams left TC payments went up for everyone so they were left to leave. Only way OU/UT get out is the same route, and I don’t think ESPN is bumping up our payout without them.
I'd like to welcome Hawkeye fan Brodie to the discussion...he's "dumbing" my pro Big 12 comments like a good Hawk should! Keep it up...its precisely how I know I'm hitting the sweet spot.
Well you guys seem to think nobody wants Iowa State, so that’s a moot point then. But elevating Cincinnati and BYU and giving them more than they have now, while we get far less, should work out really well.
Actually espn did a new contract for ut 3rd tier rights and that kept them in the conference.
Espn will pay a lump sum, maybe the remaining tv dollars, or a negotiated sum, because there is no way they want the schools to stay, and the schools certainly don’t either
Of course, since there is no other conference that wants at least 6 of us, they may hold on to get as much as they can.
I don't think "nobody wants Iowa State". Quite the opposite actually. But that doesn't mean we don't do EVERY damn thing we can until that invite comes to make sure the new Big 12 is as good as it can be. And elevating two solid programs, does not result in us getting far less...if that were the case, it won't happen. That's what the expansion committee is for...to vet the programs and ensure the payouts INCREASE with these additions. With Luck and Wintersteen on the committee...I have 100% confidence good decisions will be made.
You have no clue which conferences want or don't want "6 of us". None of us do and neither do the talking heads in sports media. You know who does....The AD's and Presidents and the Commissioners of the conferences in question. None of us...and the sports media chatterers...will have any clue until AFTER the settlement with OUUT is completed.
See I have always thought Iowa State would be one, but that’s not this discussion.
so I would assume of the remainder, Kansas because of basketball and then West Virginia because of geography. But Oklahoma State has an argument as well.
you seemed to continue to miss the point that I am not the one that is saying Iowa State is doomed. You guys are the ones in here trying to pump enough sunshine to pretend that the remaining 8 and BYU Cincinnati and two directional Florida schools will be a swell league.
Imagine being on the same side of any argument with tornado man
ironically enough, he was one that said Iowa state doesn’t offer anything
but You should probably take your own words here, and relax. Iowa State will be fine Been saying that for a few weeks now. It’s the people your here agreeing with that have said they won’t be.
Ahh. So you can read my posts. Why don’t you answer the question that has been asked of you so many times?
Speculative numbers support his claim. Using a decade old model support the others. Knowing technology progression and viewing trends, I'll agree with him.
Because it helps you feel better about the future - whatever.
I've always said that ISU's profile is much more that of a Big Ten school than a Big 12. We have ISU grads all over the landscape of Big Ten faculty. And tons of Big Ten grads on ours.
But it sounds like the Big Ten will be going for bigger fish when/if they expand.
My god man...can you read? Let me lay out in easy terms. Iowa State has a real shot at getting an invite to one of the other P5's. If it does not, the new Big 12 will still be a P5 conference with solid payouts...though a bit less than we get today. That's the scenarios at play...and in either event ISU will remain as it is...a P5 school. Adding BYU and Cinci will keep this conference at that performance level.
That is it. That's the entirety of what's being said. Every other spin you put on the counterarguments comes from your own internal misperception of what others are saying.
And let me add, at this point we all know next to nothing of what is going on in negotiations both between conferences...and within them. We know next to nothing of what kind of monetary offers are being discussed and negotiated. This is ALL speculation at this point.
Really. Pretty lame to bring Browns & Bengals into a college football argument. OSU and Bearcat fans can also be Browns, Bengals, Steeler, etc. NFL team fans.
The Bearcats 2019 home attendance was 35,985. That was much higher than Rutgers and close to these other Big10 programs:
Northwestern 37,736
Illinois 36,587
Maryland 37,812
Indiana 41,244
The Bearcat's 2019 attendance was more than: Boston College, Duke, Kansas, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest and Washington State.
So to target Cincy because they lack fan interest seems misplaced when they don't have the athletic department $ of the above.
