I was only a 3.0 in HS but scored very highly on the ACT which ISU was good in ISU's eyes. I also went to Iowa later on and found the admissions process at the business program be somewhat confusing
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I was only a 3.0 in HS but scored very highly on the ACT which ISU was good in ISU's eyes. I also went to Iowa later on and found the admissions process at the business program be somewhat confusing
I did a co-op one semester and summer at ISU at a huge company and out of close to 18 co-ops there, maybe 2-3 were from Iowa, 10-12 from ISU, and the other 5 were from Michigan State/Vandy.
I know co-ops for ISU students are very normal.
No one is saying the Ag program is a joke. I've been the Ag field for nearly 20 years now.
Just checked it out. Last year's 2013 report on 6-year graduation rates shows Iowa ahead of Iowa State by a small percentage (69.6% to 68.0%).
However, the 2012 report showed Iowa State ahead of Iowa (70.4% to 69.8%).
It seems to me like we are pretty similar in terms of 6-year grad rates.
Numbers:
http://www.regents.iowa.gov/Meetings/DocketMemos/14Memos/March2014/0314_ESAC03.pdf
However, the 2012 report showed Iowa State ahead of Iowa (70.4% to 69.8%).
It seems to me like we are pretty similar in terms of 6-year grad rates.
Numbers:
http://www.regents.iowa.gov/Meetings/DocketMemos/14Memos/March2014/0314_ESAC03.pdf
CycloneErik
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BS probably meant Bachelor of Science.
Not sure where that fits in Design, since I don't know the design majors that we offer, but that would fit the other two he mentioned.
I'm not saying you are. I honestly am not sure how it is perceived to others completely outside of Ag.
The numbers are so close and they fluctuate year by year, so probably not worth using in any debate
BFA or BArch and I don't know what is used for industrial design type programs. It's been a few years
Ag research and technology is vastly underrepresented when it comes to school rankings. Land grant schools often get a raw deal in that regard, especially since plant genetics and so on are at the forefront of innovation and are a great benefit to society.
That's the entire point; UI and ISU are essentially equal at 6-year rates, so UI's superiority in the 4-year rate is likely due to ISU students being in programs that take longer, but still graduating nonetheless.
When doing these evaluations, you really need to look at actual degrees granted rather than number of students enrolled in a particular program. Lots of people start in STEM but never get a degree in a STEM field.
According to the 2012 data...
Iowa State...4881 bachelor degrees awarded.
2152 in STEM
44%
9% in visual and performing arts/architecture/ID/etc
53% of Iowa State's degrees awarded are in fields where it can be pretty difficult to finish in 4 yearS because of co-ops, 5 year programs, difficult classes, etc
Iowa
4351 bachelor degrees awarded.
1417 in STEM
33%
6% in visual and performing arts/architecture/ID/etc
39% at U Iowa.
The distribution of degrees granted absolutely helps to explain why U Iowa has a higher 4 year grad rate.
According to the 2012 data...
Iowa State...4881 bachelor degrees awarded.
2152 in STEM
44%
9% in visual and performing arts/architecture/ID/etc
53% of Iowa State's degrees awarded are in fields where it can be pretty difficult to finish in 4 yearS because of co-ops, 5 year programs, difficult classes, etc
Iowa
4351 bachelor degrees awarded.
1417 in STEM
33%
6% in visual and performing arts/architecture/ID/etc
39% at U Iowa.
The distribution of degrees granted absolutely helps to explain why U Iowa has a higher 4 year grad rate.
They are two different schools with completely different focus areas. Iowa State University of Science and Technology is named appropriately.
ISU likely will score higher in engineering, statistics and other similar sciences. Iowa probably will rate higher in biological sciences (due to med school) and their actuarial science program is top notch..One of the top 30-40 in the country I think. Iowa's probably a little more established in the business school department, but I think ISU is slowly building up a pretty good business school. My bro-in-law just graduated from the business program with a CPA, it took him 5 years or close to 160 credits. It irks me somewhat to see ISU ranked behind schools like MN or Illinois in vet medicine though. That could have changed over the years since I last checked though
Iowa is pretty strong in the social sciences (economics) and fine arts (very strong) and business programs, but I think it's main strength is in the graduate programs..especially health, medicine and law.
ISU likely will score higher in engineering, statistics and other similar sciences. Iowa probably will rate higher in biological sciences (due to med school) and their actuarial science program is top notch..One of the top 30-40 in the country I think. Iowa's probably a little more established in the business school department, but I think ISU is slowly building up a pretty good business school. My bro-in-law just graduated from the business program with a CPA, it took him 5 years or close to 160 credits. It irks me somewhat to see ISU ranked behind schools like MN or Illinois in vet medicine though. That could have changed over the years since I last checked though
Iowa is pretty strong in the social sciences (economics) and fine arts (very strong) and business programs, but I think it's main strength is in the graduate programs..especially health, medicine and law.
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This. And anyone who thinks those genetics classes are easy has never taken one. Holy ****, that stuff blows.
Well, it's clear what the University of Iowa's strategy is in response to the Board of Regents changing the formula for distributing state appropriations. Since Iowa cannot find a way to attract as many Iowa high school graduates as Iowa State attracts, Iowa has decided they're just going to buy these students. Amazing.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/10/08/iowas-largest-public-university-scrambles-students-private-colleges-worry-they-will
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/10/08/iowas-largest-public-university-scrambles-students-private-colleges-worry-they-will
2015 Enrollment should be out sometime this week.
They've said 35K+... Hopefully above MIZZOU (35,411) in 2014. We will see.
They've said 35K+... Hopefully above MIZZOU (35,411) in 2014. We will see.
They had to report it on Friday (10th day of class), I think they were thinking just shy of 36k.
Campus is way overcrowded. It just doesn't seem as bad as last year because the weather has been nice. I can't wait for this winter... The orange route will be unridable.
It's kind of jarring to be reading through a resurrected thread and come across name changes, where the name goes back & forth between the post and the quoted post...sort of like Fitzy/Jake is caught in a time warp...
