***#8 Iowa State vs #4 Iowa (Sunday, 2:00)***

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Not exactly sure.
This is a dumb mentality. Basically saying refs are too proud to reverse their call

You may think it's dumb, but its true. You ever notice that in the Olympics, that they have an outside individual review the call in question, not the ref making the call.
 
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Not anymore. Been there…. done that. Used to go a lot, and donate too…. past that nonsense now. Too old…. me…. and the whole act. Still will cheer for them til I can’t anymore though…. always a Cyclone.

Don’t blame the young people out there that don’t want to spend the thousands and thousands of dollars every year needed to keep ISU athletics at just average these days. The money is insane.
Good riddance. ISU athletics right now is as good as it's ever been. Not the best basketball, football, wrestling teams we've had but overall name a better stretch. 99-02 was elite basketball and the turnaround for football. 10-15 was good basketball and started with good football. We have an AD who spends those dollars smartly, unlike BVDV.
 
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You may think it's dumb, but its true. You ever notice that in the Olympics, that they have an outside individual review the call in question, not the ref making the call.
Reffing in this sport is a joke. Because it’s not on the same level as football and basketball that conference don’t have their own refs, so it’s on the school. Which gives homer refs. WE NEVER seem to get that. Maybe because we hire honest refs unlike Mizzou. But maybe they’re too honest, it hurts us. With a homer refs this dual, we win comfortably
 

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Not exactly sure.
Reffing in this sport is a joke. Because it’s not on the same level as football and basketball that conference don’t have their own refs, so it’s on the school. Which gives homer refs. WE NEVER seem to get that. Maybe because we hire honest refs unlike Mizzou. But maybe they’re too honest it hurts us.
Basketball doesn't have their own refs, they are regional.
 

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Great to see all of the usual fb and bb trolls get their shots in!

To say we were outclassed is a joke. Flip any one of the three knucklehead matches (125, 184, 197) or any one of the two screw job matches (141, 174) and we win.

It took iowa wrestling defensive and getting a little help to steal the win.

The program is still on the rise.
 

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What exactly was the mistake that Dresser is admitting to?
Gaitan scores takedown with little time left but he's still behind by one point (14-13). So he might have cut Kennedy and tried for another TD but apparently ISU coaches were telling him to ride out thinking it would be a tie.
 
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Great to see all of the usual fb and bb trolls get their shots in!

To say we were outclassed is a joke. Flip any one of the three knucklehead matches (125, 184, 197) or any one of the two screw job matches (141, 174) and we win.

It took iowa wrestling defensive and getting a little help to steal the win.

The program is still on the rise.
I don’t think anyone is saying we got outclassed. I’ve seen outcoached, which is warranted. Iowa’s change at 74&84 is what ultimately won them the dual. Same thing as last year, so close just a match away.
 

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Couple guys seemed flat footed and intimidated by the situation. AE gets after woods like he did the last 15 of regulation he wins. Go to Sudden death and he gets caught flat. Entire meet came down to a couple feet and a couple seconds.
 

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Couple guys seemed flat footed and intimidated by the situation. AE gets after woods like he did the last 15 of regulation he wins. Go to Sudden death and he gets caught flat. Entire meet came down to a couple feet and a couple seconds.
Ech was clearly gassed after that flurry at the end (which looked like a missed takedown). Coach should have challenged which may have gotten the call or if not at least Ech gets his breath back before OT. Coaches just sat there watching like a fan.