We’d have to get the NCAA to change the rules. You can only do a CCG if you play a full round robin or you have two equal divisions with 12+ teams.
Big 12 Statement 9.1.2021
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We’d have to get the NCAA to change the rules. You can only do a CCG if you play a full round robin or you have two equal divisions with 12+ teams.
Divisions help protect local rivalries while also keep travel costs down, especially in a conference as widespread as this new league will be. It's not football travel universities are worried about, but rather travel for all the other non-revenue generating sports. This won't exactly be a conference flush with cash to light on fire.
Football is one of the few sports that actually uses divisions.
Do you not remember the old Big 12 with the North and South division? Basketball, we played everyone in division twice and everyone else once. It is varying but similar for other sports too.
Yeah, and it was terrible.
Do you remember how that was used against the North in brand and recruiting?
Talking about scheduling pods and bringing back Cyclone baseball both deserve a ban
Well, I highly doubt for basketball we play a full round Robin twice with 12 teams, so something has to give. There is a reason all the other big conferences have divisions and why there is a rule requiring divisions by the NCAA with conferences 12 teams or more. Also you tell WVU softball they have to pay for travel to BYU every year in a league that has to pinch pennies to keep non-revenue sports alive.
Or what? They will tell us to stop? **** the NCAA. We’ll do what we want
Are we an autonomous conference or not? The Big 12 can set their own rules without the useless NCAA
I would love to keep the Big 8 together
BYU
ISU
KSU
KU
OSU
TT
Bay
TCU
HOU
CINCY
WV
UCF
BYU
ISU
KSU
KU
OSU
TT
Bay
TCU
HOU
CINCY
WV
UCF
Where’s the rule?…the ACC paused divisions last year, and the PAC-12 has recently considered removing divisions as well. Not saying there isn’t one, but I couldn’t find it and it doesn’t seem like something that would preclude a conference from removing them if they chose/voted to do so.
Edit- I think you’re inferring divisons from the CCG requirements, which would technically not be feasible for 14 team leagues, since teams can only have 12 regular contests. If the Alliance scheduling agreement comes to fruition, we don’t have any games to waste, so we may as well maximize the competition we’re bringing in now within our own league.
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I agree about the new Big12 having to be different than most other conferences. By setting a minimum number of P5 games, it would help elevate the New Big12's SOS, force the other conferences to play more P5 games and create a level playing field.
- I am OK with playing a non P5 the first game of the season to get the rust knocked out against a UNI, MAC, UNLV type team.
- I do like the idea of playing 11 P5 games- but would play 10 games against Big12 opponents plus 1 other P5. This would allow ISU to keep the Iowa game and if Okie State would like to schedule OU they could.
- Playing 10 games against Big12 teams should help with TV Media Rights, develop rivalries and create conference unity. It's joke that some SEC, ACC & Big10 teams might play a conference opponent 1 or 2 times in a 5 year period.
- Don't have conference divisions. 2 best teams play in CCG.
However, as an Iowa State fan who lives in Iowa, the choices don't do a lot to excite me. Not really any easy, drivable road trips. Cincy is the closest at just under 600 miles/9 hours and the others are all a 15-20 hour drive away.
Staying out of the East division would be a really good idea. Always avoid Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF.
There will be a Mr. Pibb halftime challenge.
