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Do you want ISU to go through discovery on this? I think not.
ISU Gambling Megathread
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I'm gonna sue the corrupt DCI, Kim Reynolds, and Brenna Bird for emotional distress.
I would say no since the NCAA decision was completely separate from the criminal prosecution. It's funny, though, the way the courts are ruling, the NCAA may go away completely.
Sure. But when they have an ego the size of Texas and don’t respect YOU. There’s an issue. I’ve seen and heard far too many instances where cops rush decisions. Get caught. Then sued. And nothing happens other than an Oopsie poopsies. Don’t do that again. **** needs to change In law enforcement. It’s painfully clear they have ZERO comprehension of the constitution or even laws they enforce.
What's more interesting, however, is who is going to be sued, who is going to be held liable, and exactly how much money is the going to cost Iowans, ultimately, especially if ANY of the players (not just these 4) can argue that the DCI unconstitutionally deprived them of future NIL, pay-to-play or NFL or other pro earnings because of this unlawful wiretapping.
This goes way beyond questions of reinstatement, or some heads rolling at DCI. There is potentially a class/group action with millions in income and damages (taxpayer financed of course)...per student here.
Thank you DCI for protecting your citizens yet again. So grateful for your service. Next time just call me for a donation, m'kay?
This goes way beyond questions of reinstatement, or some heads rolling at DCI. There is potentially a class/group action with millions in income and damages (taxpayer financed of course)...per student here.
Thank you DCI for protecting your citizens yet again. So grateful for your service. Next time just call me for a donation, m'kay?
It was, but they’ve all lawyered up and those plea agreements will be tossed. They also intimidated these kids into signing these and took full advantage of them wanting this behind them. The state knew what they did and that’s why they pressed so hard to get these pleas signed. Good thing a few kids refused to sign.
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Police training is not nearly comprehensive enough for what us asked of them
In my opinion most divisions of law enforcement have woefully low training requirements for what is asked of them. A person with a bachelor's degree in fine art can become a dci agent with the completion of 4 month academy training and 6 months of field training. Any bachelor's degree and 1 year of training Detectiveedu.org/iowa/
To get a full time job teaching art at a university for that same fine art degree holder, they would have to get a masters degree and (generally) have 2+years of adjunct work for **** pay, and then have a plump cv of publications and exhibitions. 3-5 extra years of additional traning and an additional degree. To teach art to 17-24 year olds.
While this decision does indicate that civil rights of some of these athletes have been violated, the Iowa Tort Claims Act does limit the amount of punitive damages that can be assessed to state agencies.
A settlement will be for compensatory damages. For the professional athlete, I assume who has an agent, this amount will be easy to prove. He has a contract, and an agent should be able to document how this hurts potential future contracts.
The athletes that were still in college will be a much different story. The price of their scholarships wont be too hard to figure out. As most of the people on these forums are aware, there are no rules regarding NIL. It will be much harder to prove what NIL money these athletes lost as a result of this investigation.
Also, in cases like this it seldom goes to trial. The state will settle out of court with the plaintiffs and we will never hear the amount. The story will read something like this. "The State of Iowa and (insert athletes name here) have agreed to settle this out of court. The terms of the settlement will not be disclosed, and the State admits no wrong doing."
As a fan, I am quite frustrated with the NCAA on this. The NCAA has ended student athlete careers as a result of this scam investigation, however the FBI conducts a legitimate investigation on a Big 12 basketball coach, catches him red handed on tape cheating, and still nothing happens to him.
A settlement will be for compensatory damages. For the professional athlete, I assume who has an agent, this amount will be easy to prove. He has a contract, and an agent should be able to document how this hurts potential future contracts.
The athletes that were still in college will be a much different story. The price of their scholarships wont be too hard to figure out. As most of the people on these forums are aware, there are no rules regarding NIL. It will be much harder to prove what NIL money these athletes lost as a result of this investigation.
Also, in cases like this it seldom goes to trial. The state will settle out of court with the plaintiffs and we will never hear the amount. The story will read something like this. "The State of Iowa and (insert athletes name here) have agreed to settle this out of court. The terms of the settlement will not be disclosed, and the State admits no wrong doing."
As a fan, I am quite frustrated with the NCAA on this. The NCAA has ended student athlete careers as a result of this scam investigation, however the FBI conducts a legitimate investigation on a Big 12 basketball coach, catches him red handed on tape cheating, and still nothing happens to him.
Ask them that question, their answers will not shock you.
Are there good cops? sure, but a good cop should STOP a bad cop from doing something bad. THAT's my issue with policing. Good cops aren't speaking up. Blue Wall of Silence.
The last thing ISU wants is this to go through more discovery
Will Enyi sue, would love to see him get some retribution for a lost year in the NFL?
I don’t forget that these scholarship athletes were told by the coach & AD not to gamble. BUT, the DCI is completely at fault and a year of eligibility was lost along with potential future income. The DCI should be held accountable and the NCAA should grant a year of eligibility. Enyi is different, the NFL does not want players gambling on football and the hint of fixing games. Meanwhile they move the Raiders to Vegas and hold the SB there while exploiting the gambling environment. It’s all out of control. I wonder if Bubu wants to chime in.
Van Plumb doesn't seem like a guy that is going to settle and he shouldn't.
While I see your point on NFL gambling, he was suspended for a year(by the NFL) because of actions he did at ISU, not after he joined the NFL!
