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Do you want ISU to go through discovery on this? I think not.Can Jamie sue them is the real question here. Cytown, here we come!
Do you want ISU to go through discovery on this? I think not.Can Jamie sue them is the real question here. Cytown, here we come!
I would say no since the NCAA decision was completely separate from the criminal prosecution. It's funny, though, the way the courts are ruling, the NCAA may go away completely.Might be a dumb question but can those guys play at ISU again now? Or any NCAA school?
Being courteous and respectful towards law enforcement is for the benefit of the citizen, it’s not about how you, I, or anyone else feels about law enforcement. We’ve seen time and time again what can happen when interactions with law enforcement gets escalated. Anything a citizen can do to prevent that from happening, while not giving up their rights, is in their best interests.
Can they? I thought I read that part of the plea deal was a waiver of their ability to sue the state?
Police training is not nearly comprehensive enough for what us asked of themSure. But when they have an ego the size of Texas and don’t respect YOU. There’s an issue. I’ve seen and heard far too many instances where cops rush decisions. Get caught. Then sued. And nothing happens other than an Oopsie poopsies. Don’t do that again. **** needs to change In law enforcement. It’s painfully clear they have ZERO comprehension of the constitution or even laws they enforce.
In my opinion most divisions of law enforcement have woefully low training requirements for what is asked of them. A person with a bachelor's degree in fine art can become a dci agent with the completion of 4 month academy training and 6 months of field training. Any bachelor's degree and 1 year of training Detectiveedu.org/iowa/Sure. But when they have an ego the size of Texas and don’t respect YOU. There’s an issue. I’ve seen and heard far too many instances where cops rush decisions. Get caught. Then sued. And nothing happens other than an Oopsie poopsies. Don’t do that again. **** needs to change In law enforcement. It’s painfully clear they have ZERO comprehension of the constitution or even laws they enforce.
Police training is not nearly comprehensive enough for what us asked of them
In my opinion most divisions of law enforcement have woefully low training requirements for what is asked of them. A person with a bachelor's degree in fine art can become a dci agent with the completion of 4 month academy training and 6 months of field training. Any bachelor's degree and 1 year of training Detectiveedu.org/iowa/
To get a full time job teaching art at a university for that same fine art degree holder, they would have to get a masters degree and (generally) have 2+years of adjunct work for **** pay, and then have a plump cv of publications and exhibitions. 3-5 extra years of additional traning and an additional degree. To teach art to 17-24 year olds.
Ask them that question, their answers will not shock you.Who does law enforcement work for? What is the source of funding for their salaries, pensions, fancy rigs, etc.?
Do you want ISU to go through discovery on this? I think not.
Well that's a shame I'm good with them getting a big check from us. I still bet the idiot that did this is still in law enforcement in 3 yrs.While this decision does indicate that civil rights of some of these athletes have been violated, the Iowa Tort Claims Act does limit the amount of punitive damages that can be assessed to state agencies.
A settlement will be for compensatory damages. For the professional athlete, I assume who has an agent, this amount will be easy to prove. He has a contract, and an agent should be able to document how this hurts potential future contracts.
The athletes that were still in college will be a much different story. The price of their scholarships wont be too hard to figure out. As most of the people on these forums are aware, there are no rules regarding NIL. It will be much harder to prove what NIL money these athletes lost as a result of this investigation.
Also, in cases like this it seldom goes to trial. The state will settle out of court with the plaintiffs and we will never hear the amount. The story will read something like this. "The State of Iowa and (insert athletes name here) have agreed to settle this out of court. The terms of the settlement will not be disclosed, and the State admits no wrong doing."
As a fan, I am quite frustrated with the NCAA on this. The NCAA has ended student athlete careers as a result of this scam investigation, however the FBI conducts a legitimate investigation on a Big 12 basketball coach, catches him red handed on tape cheating, and still nothing happens to him.
While this decision does indicate that civil rights of some of these athletes have been violated, the Iowa Tort Claims Act does limit the amount of punitive damages that can be assessed to state agencies.
A settlement will be for compensatory damages. For the professional athlete, I assume who has an agent, this amount will be easy to prove. He has a contract, and an agent should be able to document how this hurts potential future contracts.
The athletes that were still in college will be a much different story. The price of their scholarships wont be too hard to figure out. As most of the people on these forums are aware, there are no rules regarding NIL. It will be much harder to prove what NIL money these athletes lost as a result of this investigation.
Also, in cases like this it seldom goes to trial. The state will settle out of court with the plaintiffs and we will never hear the amount. The story will read something like this. "The State of Iowa and (insert athletes name here) have agreed to settle this out of court. The terms of the settlement will not be disclosed, and the State admits no wrong doing."
As a fan, I am quite frustrated with the NCAA on this. The NCAA has ended student athlete careers as a result of this scam investigation, however the FBI conducts a legitimate investigation on a Big 12 basketball coach, catches him red handed on tape cheating, and still nothing happens to him.
While I see your point on NFL gambling, he was suspended for a year(by the NFL) because of actions he did at ISU, not after he joined the NFL!I don’t forget that these scholarship athletes were told by the coach & AD not to gamble. BUT, the DCI is completely at fault and a year of eligibility was lost along with potential future income. The DCI should be held accountable and the NCAA should grant a year of eligibility. Enyi is different, the NFL does not want players gambling on football and the hint of fixing games. Meanwhile they move the Raiders to Vegas and hold the SB there while exploiting the gambling environment. It’s all out of control. I wonder if Bubu wants to chime in.