John Deere strike imminent?

jmax71

Active Member
Oct 21, 2006
66
103
33
That's kind of the double edged sword of unions and standardized pay scale (I've worked both union and non-union construction projects in multiple states) you insure that everyone gets paid the same for the same work, but if someone is better you can't reward them.

On one hand, the union mostly protects the workers from unfair treatment by ****** employers and should be giving the employer an employee who meets a known criteria. Theoretically if I call the hall and ask for a journeyman carpenter I should be getting an actual carpenter not someone who is a "carpenter" because he just bought all the carpenter tools from Home Depot.

The downside is that often good employees are aren't given an opportunity to excel or be compensated for just being better than their coworkers. Or if they do work harder they get sabotaged for being better (I've seen it). You also get a lot of the "It's not about the outcome, it's about the income" mindset at some point.
Union representation in a factory is all together different from the trades. The UAW has nothing to do with the hiring process. The Company does all screening and hiring and the union simply ends up representing the employees the Company hires. There is no “going to the union hall” to provide a workforce for the Company.
 

NWICY

Well-Known Member
Sep 2, 2012
29,562
25,014
113
So the non-union folks get less of a raise than the union? I thought the inions were all about socialism?

Meh they get 8% this yr then probably 5 for the next 3 they won't fall behind the union in pay. It'll all get passed downstream anyway. Shareholders probably won't have to take a haircut either.
 

Cyclones1969

Well-Known Member
Jul 26, 2021
8,885
6,076
113
54
That was in the works back in September strike or not that was going to happen because headhunters were picking off salary people. I've been averaging 3 calls a week from them since this summer. Just happened to get finalized the day before bonus day.

Good for you
 
  • Friendly
Reactions: mramseyISU

jmax71

Active Member
Oct 21, 2006
66
103
33
That was in the works back in September strike or not that was going to happen because headhunters were picking off salary people. I've been averaging 3 calls a week from them since this summer. Just happened to get finalized the day before bonus day.
Headhunters or not, Deere knew they were heading to negotiating some solid increases for the wage group. You won’t ever be able to negotiate Deere farther than they were already prepared to go. As is their history, salaried employees benefit from Deere-UAW negotiations.
In addition to wage increases, the UAW also gained additional holidays and floating holidays that all employees will get to enjoy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mramseyISU

mramseyISU

Well-Known Member
Nov 8, 2006
6,428
6,427
113
Waterloo, IA
Headhunters or not, Deere knew they were heading to negotiating some solid increases for the wage group. You won’t ever be able to negotiate Deere farther than they were already prepared to go. As is their history, salaried employees benefit from Deere-UAW negotiations.
In addition to wage increases, the UAW also gained additional holidays and floating holidays that all employees will get to enjoy.
Deere also knows that with the push toward precision ag they are going to be competing for the same talent as big time tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and others in that category. They needed to increase compensation and other perks to attract those people because living in Des Moines or the Quad Cities isn't what you'd call attractive to people from silicone valley. I just read in the news that Deere has bought or leased a building in Chicago to centralize software development. There seems to be a lot happening all at once, some of it tied to the contract negotiations but I think a lot of it was in the works a year ago with the new CEO.
 
  • Like
Reactions: stuclone