Prohm Contract Extended

[clonehenge]

$2M a year is still too low to me. If he gets us back to the NCAA tournament next season, he needs to be flirting with $3M a year.

I think it's more important if Prohm thinks it's too low, and I don't think he does.

I get the feeling that Prohm isn't worried about money or where he falls on the list of highest paid coaches. I think he cares about coaching. He knows if he takes care of the coaching part the money will come.

He's also a strong family man and I think it's important for him to be in an environment that is good for his family and I think he sees Ames as being just that...I don't think he's lying when he talks up how much he loves the fanbase and the community.

 

[Tre4ISU]

You have to realize he went from like $500k at Murray State to $2M at ISU. That's a massive pay raise in just two years.

It's also irrelevant. I'm fine with the 2M number but if we make the tournament next year, it's time to recognize this guy is real and it's time to pay.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I think it's more important if Prohm thinks it's too low, and I don't think he does.

I get the feeling that Prohm isn't worried about money or where he falls on the list of highest paid coaches. I think he cares about coaching. He knows if he takes care of the coaching part the money will come.

He's also a strong family man and I think it's important for him to be in an environment that is good for his family and I think he sees Ames as being just that...I don't think he's lying when he talks up how much he loves the fanbase and the community.

I agree with all of that. I would also say, though, that you don't want to him a reason to talk to anyone and you don't ever want him to feel like he's not appreciated. He understands he's not going to see 5M here but if he has 5 years of success and look up at 6 guys in the conference making more with only 2 of them being equal in their accomplishments, it gives someone a reason to come in and talk to him.

 

[pulse]

Good for both coaches, they certainly deserve it.

 

[allfourcy]

I disagree. You can't compare today's landscape to when those guys got their start. If you are a P5 school, you are sitting in a really good spot financially and if you slow play a deserving coach you end up in the same position as Okie State. As my old pal Jack Burton once said "money talks and bull **** walks"

Its fair to disagree. But I don't think a 33% raise to a coach going into his 3rd year at a program is "slow playing" as you call it.

 

[cyclones12321]

Well deserved, congrats!

 

[Thomasrickj]

Those of you worried about this value not being enough need to relax. Prohm is doing a good job and will keep getting pay increases as long as he keeps doing a good job. I wouldn't be surprised to see him surpass $3mil in the next 3-4 seasons.

 

[clonehenge]

I agree with all of that. I would also say, though, that you don't want to him a reason to talk to anyone and you don't ever want him to feel like he's not appreciated. He understands he's not going to see 5M here but if he has 5 years of success and look up at 6 guys in the conference making more with only 2 of them being equal in their accomplishments, it gives someone a reason to come in and talk to him.

I agree.

But I also get the feeling that Prohm is a pretty humble person and doesn't have the ego that a lot of coaches do and it would take a serious slap in the face to make him feel as if he wasn't appreciated.

I could be wrong though since I don't really know him...maybe I should send him some LinkedIn or FB requests so we can be BFFs.

 

[CycloneWarning]

http://cyclones.com/news/2017/3/24/...contracts-for-prohm-and-fennelly-to-2022.aspx

Prohm's deal was extended one year (to June 30, 2022) and his total compensation was increased to $2 million annually. All other contract terms remain unchanged.

Would have liked the buyout increased. If CSP gets this next team to NCAA, phone is going to be ringing off the hook.

 

[acgclone]

I love how JP trolls the hell out of KU fans

"Coach Prohm has led our program to a Big 12 Championship and back-to-back NCAA Tournament appearances while also representing our institution and athletics department in a first-class manner, both on and off the court," Pollard said. "His values and approach to coaching are a perfect fit for our institution and fan base."

I'm sure KU fans are pulling the plug on all their Elite 8 plans in the wake of JP's comments

 

[Mr Janny]

Good news. Prohm could have really played hardball on this. The fact that he didn't says a lot about him.

 

[MeowingCows]

I disagree. You can't compare today's landscape to when those guys got their start. If you are a P5 school, you are sitting in a really good spot financially and if you slow play a deserving coach you end up in the same position as Okie State. As my old pal Jack Burton once said "money talks and bull **** walks"

Pokes were a pretty extreme case, though. Money was clearly not the only problem that Underwood had with the school.

 

[Stormin]

$2M a year is still too low to me. If he gets us back to the NCAA tournament next season, he needs to be flirting with $3M a year.

I am so glad you are not in charge. $2 million is very good money. Prohm has more success then we likely extend and moderate raises will be given. Getting us back to the Tourney is not justification for $3 million per year.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I think this is a good start. If the next couple years keep going like we hope, the AD can always bump him some more.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I am so glad you are not in charge. $2 million is very good money. Prohm has more success then we likely extend and moderate raises will be given. Getting us back to the Tourney is not justification for $3 million per year.

Why don't you just say "I don't get how this works." It'd be easier for everyone.

 

[TXCyclones]

I agree with all of that. I would also say, though, that you don't want to him a reason to talk to anyone and you don't ever want him to feel like he's not appreciated. He understands he's not going to see 5M here but if he has 5 years of success and look up at 6 guys in the conference making more with only 2 of them being equal in their accomplishments, it gives someone a reason to come in and talk to him.

I'm lazy. Can somebody please list the ten B12 Coaches with their salaries listed in order?

 

[leschmick1785]

No it's not. If he's comfortable with $2M then that's what it should. Those peers may have much more pressure to be successful and have a shorter leash. Overpay him and the expectations may become inflated and the seat may get hotter faster.

This comment leads me to believe you don't have experience as a hiring manager or understand labor economics. Also, I don't think anyone in the Big 12 has a program with more expectations than Steve Prohm except Bill Self. Attendance proves it.

 

[Stormin]

It's also irrelevant. I'm fine with the 2M number but if we make the tournament next year, it's time to recognize this guy is real and it's time to pay.

We are paying. And keep in mind that the assistants need to be paid as well. Bonus for winning Big 12 Tourney was 8 weeks pay for each assistant I believe. They got another 2 weeks for getting to Tourney and another week for Top 32 I believe. So each assistant got close to $50,000 each in bonus money.

Pretty silly to imply that $2 million per year is horse **** compensation.

 

[MeowingCows]

This comment leads me to believe you don't have experience as a hiring manager or understand labor economics. Also, I don't think anyone in the Big 12 has a program with more expectations than Steve Prohm except Bill Self. Attendance proves it.

Are we just going to ignore the fact that Prohm was called earlier this week by another P5 school, which he turned down without hesistation, followed by signing this extension?

It's pretty evident to me that he's happy.

 

[Stewo]

I am so glad you are not in charge. $2 million is very good money. Prohm has more success then we likely extend and moderate raises will be given. Getting us back to the Tourney is not justification for $3 million per year.

I'm glad that I'm not in charge, either. You ******* fans would be emailing me about everything.