RECRUITING: Shakur Juiston commits to UNLV

[SpokaneCY]

Where's the link to the RI board?

Makes me wonder if that RI "insider" knew nefarious things were going on at UNLV which is why he said he'd discuss at a later time.

It doesn't make any sense that a program and coach that hasn't had any recent success is getting a 5* post, a 4*pg, and now the JUCO POY...

How does CSP sign a top 25 recruiting class? Relationships, hard work, having a product the recruit is looking to buy. It doesn't make any sense to think the kid should play at ISU or nowhere else because if he DOESN'T choose ISU then there are shenanigans afoot.

He just wasn't that into us.

 

[Cyclonepride]

No win. Kids only come to ISU for ethical reasons and to make the world a better place. Kids DON'T choose ISU because the system is shady. There is NO in between.

I think you've got our system down.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I think just as interesting is how correct the Olive Garden busboy and UNLV forum insiders were in comments over a week old. They hit on the prediction that McCoy, Juiston, and a guard from another program would commit. Hell of a guess?

They've been saying that since they all visited UNLV. There's a lot more going on than anyone will ever know or be told.

 

[mj4cy]

The young man made his decision and good for him. However, I have figured out I just don't understand. Maybe it's just easier to make the NBA playing in the mountain west and knowing you have talent. I would just think the fan support, playing games during primetime on ESPN (I know...not a great day to toue EPSN), and proven recent results would give ISU the edge.

On to the guys that wanna be cyclones.

 

[Malone]

Lard development expedited, so be it!

 

[NoCreativity]

Prohm is failing miserably in the transfer market so far. How can he get these high level high school kids but not any transfers? We are going to have down years while the kids develop if this is how spring recruiting is going forward.

 

[clonedude]

Exactly WHAT is/was important to SJ? You and others claim to know his mind and what is in his best interests - so other than fleshing out an ISU basketball roster that YOU enjoy, what is he missing out on by not going to ISU?

The kid made a decision that is personal to HIM. ISU wasn't the place for him and our program is in great shape regardless.

I love ISU but some of you seem to think we are the shining light on the hill that is the answer to every wayward basketball soul. We AIN'T all that. JS will play regulation big-boy basketball for a coaching staff he clicked with in a town that has lots to offer in TV markets that will let him showcase his skills nationwide.

Best of luck to him and I couldn't be more thrilled with existing (and evolving) recruits we have that chose to be part of CSP's program.

Some of us need to get over ourselves.

You could be right, nobody knows except for Juiston.

However, between UNLV, ISU, DePaul, Kansas, and Rhode Island, I could make a great case for him going to any of those schools EXCEPT for UNLV. That's why it raises eyebrows IMO.

Kansas- blue blood. great history. wins. great coach. great school. etc. etc.
ISU- very good program. coach spent the most time recruiting you and building relationship. wins. great school.
DePaul- connections with friend and coach. great school. plays out east a lot so family could attend a lot of games.
Rhode Island- good program. wins. closest to home of any. great school.

UNLV- loses. not a good program. who's the coach again? not a good school. but has the Vegas strip and probably pays their players.

 

[zarnold56]

Prohm is failing miserably in the transfer market so far. How can he get these high level high school kids but not any transfers? We are going to have down years while the kids develop if this is how spring recruiting is going forward.

The transfer market is so much more heavily contested now. Kansas has like 5 transfers now, and they are a blueblood.

 

[clonebb]

Exactly WHAT is/was important to SJ? You and others claim to know his mind and what is in his best interests - so other than fleshing out an ISU basketball roster that YOU enjoy, what is he missing out on by not going to ISU?

The kid made a decision that is personal to HIM. ISU wasn't the place for him and our program is in great shape regardless.

I love ISU but some of you seem to think we are the shining light on the hill that is the answer to every wayward basketball soul. We AIN'T all that. JS will play regulation big-boy basketball for a coaching staff he clicked with in a town that has lots to offer in TV markets that will let him showcase his skills nationwide.

Best of luck to him and I couldn't be more thrilled with existing (and evolving) recruits we have that chose to be part of CSP's program.

Some of us need to get over ourselves.

Nation wide TV markets? You forgot the jimlad.

 

[Rogue52]

Can't blame Prohm for trying his best but he's got some work to do now. Three scholarships left and the month of May is almost here.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Prohm is failing miserably in the transfer market so far. How can he get these high level high school kids but not any transfers? We are going to have down years while the kids develop if this is how spring recruiting is going forward.

Because it's a completely different kind of recruiting. Speed dating doesn't really favor the guy whose best attributes are honesty and loyalty.

Being a great evaluator and getting a head start doesn't exist in the transfer/spring recruiting market. And working the hardest doesn't translate as well either.

Fred didn't exactly grab many top spring free agents. He utilized prior tangible connections to ISU and discounted goods (two for ones and guys with previous issues)

 

[heitclone]

Wigginton
Jackson
Brown (Babb if Brown doesn't come here)
Young
Lard

Off the bench:
Beverly (if he comes here)
Long
Lewis
McNeill
Kasongo

That's still a tourney team

that's a bubble team IF Brown ends up here, without he (or Alstork...) its an NIT bubble team, w/o one of the grad transfer guards, who scores for that team? Jackson is the only guy back that is any kind of offensive threat, other than him, it'll be a ton of pressure on the freshman.

 

[CloneGuy8]

Prohm is failing miserably in the transfer market so far. How can he get these high level high school kids but not any transfers? We are going to have down years while the kids develop if this is how spring recruiting is going forward.

It only seems that way because there are 4 scholarships to fill. Getting Shayok was a big deal. If we get Brown, then that's 2 high level transfers.

 

[clonedude]

Most of us on here still believed we were in good position with him. Still think when the Beverly visit turned up, it meant something was up then. Of course anyone that questioned or wondered was blasted on here. But most importantly.... thanks to Coach Prohm and staff for working hard to build a roster for 'next year' and good luck with the few weeks ahead!!

And for all the 'lighten up' replies I'll get for saying this....I still don't appreciate the Pollard Cyclone plane in Hutchinson tweet, regardless it being a joke and a Pollard trait we're supposed to know by now. To each his own, I guess.

Off topic somewhat, but I agree with you. I love JP, and don't want to lose him, but some of the stuff he does just boggles one's mind. Just dumb. This wasn't even a single bit funny at all. Why do it?

 

[CoKane]

To UNLV? Huh. Guess that paying players thing didn't stop just because they had a coaching change.

 

[acgclone]

Because it's a completely different kind of recruiting. Speed dating doesn't really favor the guy whose best attributes are honesty and loyalty.

Being a great evaluator and getting a head start doesn't exist in the transfer/spring recruiting market. And working the hardest doesn't translate as well either.

Yes, and he's still re-building our foundation..... Wigginton, Lard, Lewis, Young, McNeill is a good start.

If we can add Brown and Beverly, we still should compete for a tourney spot.

Add Morrow and Shayok sitting out, plus a couple more top 100 kids next year and we're set up really well in 2018 and beyond.

 

[Sigmapolis]

that's a bubble team IF Brown ends up here, without he (or Alstork...) its an NIT bubble team, w/o one of the grad transfer guards, who scores for that team? Jackson is the only guy back that is any kind of offensive threat, other than him, it'll be a ton of pressure on the freshman.

We know Jackson can shoot/score.

Wigginton will get buckets.

I hope Babb took about 5,000 shots per day this summer from three. He uncorked it a few times late last year. His brother shot 38% from 3PT his senior year -- he does that, we're good.

Lewis will get some buckets.

Hopefully Solomon's offensive game will continue to develop.

Lock down on defense even more.

Win some 60-57, not 70-68.

 

[CycloneVet]

Off topic somewhat, but I agree with you. I love JP, and don't want to lose him, but some of the stuff he does just boggles one's mind. Just dumb. This wasn't even a single bit funny at all. Why do it?

In case you havnt noticed. Pollard is a dork simple as that.

 

[clonebb]

Seems like transfers are looking for things that a good guy like Prohm won't offer. Let's not kid ourselves, there is plenty of shady recruiting and booster involvement that benefit recruits that want extra cash and things they can't afford.

 

[CycloneBBFan]

I'd honestly like to hear UNLV's recruiting pitch. Obviously they can't sell their basketball program, conference, or fanbase. What is it then? Parties? Nightlife? Or does David Copperfield just show up with a brown bag full of cash?

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