If we add a men's sport we have to add a women's sport. What would that be? I know it was said to drop wrestling for baseball,but that is crazy. Let's elimate a team just outside the top ten for a team that might be .500 on good years
Should we make a change at Head wrestling Coach?
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If we add a men's sport we have to add a women's sport. What would that be? I know it was said to drop wrestling for baseball,but that is crazy. Let's elimate a team just outside the top ten for a team that might be .500 on good years
Jackson is undoubtedly a great coach for Downey like he was for Reader, Varner, Zabriskie, Gadson, et al. At this point there's no doubt he can take a great wrestler and get the best out of them throughout the season and at NCAAs. I see that as a totally separate thing from what the OP asked, which was about running the overall program, including walk ons who will never see the mat outside of an open and talented but not locked in guys who have to be motivated externally.
I've been very clear about this for a couple of years and this season just reaffirmed things, yet again.
If we have to exceed expectations in order to get 12th... in year 7 then we need to move on. I know JP doesn't care and KJ is the cheap option for a sport that doesn't matter anymore. Let the contract expire and get ANYONE else. That way we aren't paying him for not working.
I was on board when he was wanting to turn us into a school where people can come and after graduating compete on a national and global level. I was ready to accept a dip in status if that was there. But we aren't pushing out free style guys who are doing much of anything after graduation.
The guys on the team did better than expected. I am positive that happened despite KJ and whatever he calls coaching at this point.
If we have to exceed expectations in order to get 12th... in year 7 then we need to move on. I know JP doesn't care and KJ is the cheap option for a sport that doesn't matter anymore. Let the contract expire and get ANYONE else. That way we aren't paying him for not working.
I was on board when he was wanting to turn us into a school where people can come and after graduating compete on a national and global level. I was ready to accept a dip in status if that was there. But we aren't pushing out free style guys who are doing much of anything after graduation.
The guys on the team did better than expected. I am positive that happened despite KJ and whatever he calls coaching at this point.
Senior architect class is redoing the dugouts, backstop, etc. They did it all the way from demolition to laying block, to the finish. It's been a fun and interesting project according to my relative who is working on it.
I'm beginning to appreciate the pride and the expectations of ISU wrestling, and I can understand the frustrations among its supporters. With that being said, I do believe there are many factors outside of a coach's control...injuries, death in families, guys getting in trouble...academically or otherwise, etc.; the list is endless. KJ can do only so much...the rest relies on the individual athlete. They are going to either apply themselves or not. These are grown young men who shouldn't have to be held by the hand and should themselves be held accountable for their performances. KJ can't wrestle their matches for them.
This, I was in Stillwater the night of the Bedlam wresting meet this year and the place was packed.
Besides the 7 or 8 people on here does anyone really care? JP tossed this sport out when CS left for Penn State. Let's bring on Hockey and womens lacrosse - or hell womens hockey. Big 12 does not give a rat about rasslin' nor hockey but we are good at one - forget the traitor in the east and do what fans want - not some failed attempt to beat the scums in the east.
Cloneman89
Re: Another football commit.
Glad to know you are not just a tool when it comes to ISU wrestling. Saw the post above after we received a FB 320 OL commitment from a kid that currently has no stars. I hope you are really not this miserable and just trolling.
Re: Another football commit.
I rode the hype train for awhile till I saw the possible line up. Most guys are from ol CPR recruits - so unless TM waved a magic wand we will look like last year. I will be ecstatic if they actually can play as a unit - however grabbing kids that CMU/Northern Illinois and Illinois State are after does not make me jump up and down. Looks like we are taking the no chancers at P5 programs and selling them like they are our steps to heaven. I do realize we are Iowa State but the hype needs to meet reality sometime and I am praying we don't become the MAC school of the Big 12. These players look like MAC fodder - granted they were better than us but that ain't saying much! Sure hope JP has his 401K stuffed to limit as this will be his last hire if things go south!
Glad to know you are not just a tool when it comes to ISU wrestling. Saw the post above after we received a FB 320 OL commitment from a kid that currently has no stars. I hope you are really not this miserable and just trolling.
Only people my age can remember the last Natl Championship by our wrestling program Now that's Mediocrity
Wonder what the CF record for most Ignore List adds is? Buttdart89 is gonna smash it.
Varner returning to Ames, Iowa? He wins the NCCA title again as a senior--under Kevin Jackson. And 2 months later Varner packs his car, receives his diploma, and drives to State College, PA. to train under Cael.
And he is still there. LMAO. So much for Jackson's international coaching experience
Weird, can't believe he'd go train with the coach who recruited him who also happens to be an Olympic gold medalist and the greatest college wrestler of all time. Sounds like KJ's fault.
not sure Varner would ever come back to Ames, since he couldn't wait to leave. Hell, he left the morning after graduation..... weird indeed
No way Varner comes back to the program. Seems to be connected at the hip to Cael. I think it might be safe to guess this was his last Olympic cycle though..He looked disinterested in the 2nd match against Snyder and looked defeated after the first period of the 3rd match. Snyder has his number and I doubt Varner has the horses to go toe to toe with him at this point.
Varner is really close to Cael and wanted to train with him. I'd imagine he probably got more money from the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club than the CWC could offer as well. Heading to Happy Valley after he graduated isn't an indication of anything more than that. There are only so many coaching positions on a staff and only so much CWC money.
Agreed. Financially isu is in way better position than when any of this went down. PSU is pretty set on coaches unless one leaves for a head job. Another question is, can he coach? Some great athletes know it so well, they can't break things down or understand why someone just doesn't get it. I've seen it before. I hope Jake has that knack for coaching and it would be nice to have him around. While he is not as big of a name as Burroughs, he is still well known in wrestling and didn't hurt to have his own shoes.
