I can't really comment on this since I wasn't following ISU basketball when Fizer was playing but Brackins is a damn good player. Nobody gives him enough credit for how good of a passer he is.
Marcus Fizer was perhaps the BEST college player his senior year.
Brackins has more talent but Fizer used what he had better and stepped up to make the whole team better. Right now, Brackins isn't playing hard nosed, determined basketball - nor has he ever. Until that changes, he has no chance in the NBA.
Brackins Career Stats:
PPG: 16.1 RPG: 7.4 APG: 1.6 SPG: 0.5 BPG: 1.0 FG%: 46.4 3PT%: 33.2 FT%: 71.4
Fizer Career Stats:
PPG: 18.9 RPG: 7.4 APG: 1.0 SPG: 0.9 BPG: 0.9 FG%: 51.3 3PT%: 29.2 FT%: 70.2
I think just looking at the stats anyone who says either Brackins or Fizer is way better is way off base. At this point I'd give the slight edge to Fizer b/c of his on ball defense, and he could guard the 3, 4, or 5. Not sure if Brackins is there yet.
I don't need the stats to know who i'd rather have on my team if i want to win.Brackins is a much better 3 point shooter, and they rebound at the same rate (over their career).
Was hoping people would actually look at their stats.
That's fine. You could say intangibles influence your decision, and that's fine. But when the reasons you give are contradicted by the stats, it seems prudent to consult them first.
Stats say Brett Favre has thrown the most interceptions and Babe Ruth the most strike outs, but the body of the balance of their work over comes that.
Stats are a little over rated.
Yeah, but for Favre those stats encompass a 19 year career, and for Ruth a 20 year career. Fizer and Brackins' stats simply reflect a three year span. Easier for stats to be more accurate when they reflect a shorter time span.
Also, it's hard to tout Fizer's 3 point shooting, and his rebounding as reasons he's better than Brackins when Brackins rebounds just as well as Fizer and is a better 3 point shooter. Like I said before stats don't tell the whole story, but some of your own reasons are contradicted by the stats.
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I would say just the opposite is true.
Not when you say an entire body of work "overcomes" the stats. When you say that, you're essentially saying the stats are abberations and don't tell the whole story. When it's a short period of time I think it's less likely that the stats fail to tell the whole story.
Either way, the point remains that Brackins rebounds just as well as Fizer, and is a better 3 point shooter, which were two of the above poster's reasons for liking Fizer better. Ignoring rebounding and 3 point shooting stats just seems silly in that case.
Fizer really didn't shoot the 3 pointer that often because he was in the post most of the time.
And where's the stat for defense and catching impossible passes thrown to him down low? Fizer would own Brackins in the Post while Brackins would have an edge further out.
The question is simple. Who would you chose Fizer or Brackins? I've seen both play. Maybe they are fairly even by the stats, but Fizer is still my guy and it's an easy decision.