*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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Is Delaney blowing smoke?
Big Ten has "closed down conference expansion" - CBSSports.com
If not MU may be staying home.:smile:
Big Ten has "closed down conference expansion" - CBSSports.com
If not MU may be staying home.:smile:
Worst 3000th post ever?
I'm confident Delany is blowing something...
If Notre Dame came knocking on their door tomorrow I guarantee they would be whistling a different tune...
CycloneErik
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The day it's formed. That's how it has to play out, unless they played 0 non-conference games.
I think this is the key quote in that statement:
"the (Big Ten) would like to reiterate that it will not be actively engaged in conference expansion at this time, or at any time in the foreseeable future, barring a significant shift in the current intercollegiate athletic landscape."
The SEC issued a similar statement sometime last week, just before A&M's BOR voted to allow the president to look for another conference. A few hours later, the SEC issued a statement saying the 12-team model no longer worked for them.
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Exactly. The SEC says now they will only expand to state where they don't have a footprint. If the Big 10 followed the same model, you'd have multiple states where natural 100 year rivals are playing in different conferences to try to continue the money grab.
Why have...
GA Tech/Georgia
Florida/Florida St
Texas/Texas A&M/TCU
Kentucky/Louisville
Iowa/Iowa State
Clemson/S. Carolina
N. Carolina/NC St
Virginia/Virginia Tech
Ohio St./Cincinnati
Utah/BYU
UCONN/Boston College
...all teams who are currently in BCS conferences who'd either are currently are or would be in different conferences.
I guess if some people want to argue that Illinois and Northern Illinois shouldn't be in the same conference then fine (even though I think that is contradictory to a mission statement of a any university's goal that their #1 concern should be to educate students). But all these are already BCS teams that should be in the same conference in my opinion.
But oh yeah, I forgot that the best education of students isn't what college sports is about and it hasn't been that way for I'm guessing 30 years...And rationality breaks the 5 rules of realignment
1. Football is the only sport that matters
2. Money drives the boat, which is fueled by tradition and population to bring in TV sets
3. Academics don't matter...in this case the best interests of students
4. Geography is a minor influence when making decisions
5. Most important of all, do what is best for yourself and don't worry about the ramifications for anybody else
I guess I don't agree that rivals or schools in the same state should necessarily be in the same conference. Take ISU/Iowa for example. Iowa is on the western end of conference that primarily spans eastward toward the eastern border of the US. ISU is on the northern end of a conference that primarily spans southward towards the southern border of the US. The exposure for the state of Iowa as a whole is greatly expanded by having one school in each conference, because although the conferences overlap in Iowa, they don't overlap anywhere else. I think this is a good thing.
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yeah, you're probably right. I'm guess I just disagree with the fact that the whole thing is driven by money when there should be a more rational process behind everything.
And i think there's a good chance nothing comes from that lawsuit. TAMU\SEC could argue that the SEC merely encouraged them to exercise their rights under the contract to leave.
With all of the details that need to be straightened out plus the potential legal implications this could mean that aTm and other won't make a move for a long time...
This thread could go on forever!! :swoon:
This thread could go on forever!! :swoon:
I have absolutely no idea on anything regarding the legal system, but it would seem to me that if 10 men agreed to build a house for $1 billion (fox contract), then one of them walked off the job and the replacement cost for that guy's share of the work was $200 million, then the guy would walked off the job would be responsible for the replacement cost...I really don't know though. I'm sure with the legal system there is a way to get around everything.
Or at least as long as the Big 12 gives them to make a decision or face a $100 million exit fee to leave before a specified amount of time...say 3 weeks.
If theyd all agreed to build that house, and in that agreement they agreed that if you leave early you will pay X as liquidated damages, they would pay X upon leaving (and it is set up that way in the big 12 bylaws, with the X amount being collected out of undispersed revenues first and then any amount beyond that is owed by the school leaving i believe)
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