PREDICTIONS: Iowa State @ Iowa

Clones21

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To be honest I just don't know how Iowa stops Johnson and White. Iowa is probably thinking the same thing. I love the spread and passing, but I hope to God we don't go away from the running game too much in this game. We should have close to 200 yards on the ground in this game. Iowa's d-line= not good.
 

VeloClone

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Since 1990 when we have scored more than 17 points in Iowa City, we have won the game.

Fair enough. I'll go with an 18-17 ISU win.

ISU scores a very late TD to make it 17-16 Iowa pending the PAT. Bueker throws for a surprise 2 pt. PAT out of kicking formation to Ricky Howard and the D makes the slim lead stand. Ghosts of the last Nebraska game exorcised.
 

nhclone

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Great analysis.

This analysis actually applies to the series in general. People act like one team or the other become giant killers for this game, when really, the better team almost always wins.

Since 1998 (the oldest Sagrin rankings I could find), if there is a legitimate seperation between the teams, the better team has won 8/10. In years when the season ended with both teams ranked within 10 points (push years), that drops to 2/4 for the higher ranked team. Thatmakes sense, especially when you consider the home team won 3/4 in those push years (interestingly enough, ISU won all 4 of those).

Really the only 2 times that the significantly better team lost the game were 2002 and 2007, both of which happened due to an improbable performance from one ISUs players. Shaggy had what I would imagine was his best game by far, and Seneca had his 2nd highest yardage output of the season, added to the fact he was in the middle of what would be a 6 game win streak. Coupled with the fact that Brad Banks practically carried the Cy-Hawk trophy to our sidelines, this one is what you have to call an "outlier."

All in all, it comes down to either being the better team, or having a heroic effort in the upset. Heroics don't happen all that often, and the safe bet is the better team.

ISU-31 Iowa-21
 

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As the game goes along keep track of the "3 and outs" + the "turnovers". First team to 6 wins the game. My prediction is ISU 24 IU 16 in a real slobber knocker.
 

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Really the only 2 times that the significantly better team lost the game were 2002 and 2007

In 07 it wasn't that far apart. 79 iowa vs 92 ISU.

In 02, it was farther, but i think you almost have to look at 02 as 2 seasons. The first half we were world-beaters. Once the OU game hit though, we completely fell apart.

Other than that though, i agree. The series has, for the most part, been determined by who was the better team in general, not by a dramatic swing of fortune from the venue.
 

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I think we stall in the redzone twice with a turnover and missed FG, but still pull it out 24-21 in what turns out to be a pretty good game.
 

dualthreat

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I know were not favored, but has Paul Rhoads lost a game that we should have won since he got here in '09? Throw out the Dan hawkins firing fiasco and I'd say when the teams are equal--> Iowa state wins the game.

Also, hold the hawks to under 24. Rhoads doesn't lose when that happens either. (Except '10 Mizzou when AA was hurt)
 

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This analysis actually applies to the series in general. People act like one team or the other become giant killers for this game, when really, the better team almost always wins.

Since 1998 (the oldest Sagrin rankings I could find), if there is a legitimate seperation between the teams, the better team has won 8/10. In years when the season ended with both teams ranked within 10 points (push years), that drops to 2/4 for the higher ranked team. Thatmakes sense, especially when you consider the home team won 3/4 in those push years (interestingly enough, ISU won all 4 of those).

Really the only 2 times that the significantly better team lost the game were 2002 and 2007, both of which happened due to an improbable performance from one ISUs players. Shaggy had what I would imagine was his best game by far, and Seneca had his 2nd highest yardage output of the season, added to the fact he was in the middle of what would be a 6 game win streak. Coupled with the fact that Brad Banks practically carried the Cy-Hawk trophy to our sidelines, this one is what you have to call an "outlier."

All in all, it comes down to either being the better team, or having a heroic effort in the upset. Heroics don't happen all that often, and the safe bet is the better team.

ISU-31 Iowa-21


One thing: If Brad Banks had actually carried the Cy-Hawk Trophy to our sidelines, we would have needed a new one. Those hands weren't going to hold on to anything.
 

VeloClone

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One thing: If Brad Banks had actually carried the Cy-Hawk Trophy to our sidelines, we would have needed a new one. Those hands weren't going to hold on to anything.

Kind of like this?
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I know, I know, it is the wrong trophy.
 

nhclone

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One thing: If Brad Banks had actually carried the Cy-Hawk Trophy to our sidelines, we would have needed a new one. Those hands weren't going to hold on to anything.

It's OK, I've had an AWESOME new idea in mind for a while.



I actually made it for something completely different than football, but it would work in a pinch.