ISU vs. CU postgame thread
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Thanks for trying to come up with some concrete examples for me:
Texas this year - I watched this game (I actually see quite a few UT games on TV). I'm not so certain that DJ's game (17pts, 1reb, 3asst, 1to, and 2stls) was impacted that dramatically by anything we were doing. He had a decent game and actually was in a little bit of a "slump" during that stretch. However, WE LOST THE GAME.
Missouri this year -I didn't see this game but at least we won the game by 5 at home...that is good. However, one thing I know, Anderson, who is a disciple of Nolan Richardson, loves to press and try to create easy baskets in transition and basically outscore the other team in a fast-paced game. This is much easier to do at home than on the road. If we can control the pace when we play them in Columbia I will be much more impressed. By the way...Mizzou is no "world beater" team...15-14 and in 10th place in the Big 12.
Kansas last year -I assume you are talking about the loss in OT at home. I did see that game on TV...but I just don't recall much of it...certainly nothing that made me think McDermott was a sterling X&O guy. The bottom line again is that WE LOST THE GAME.
I guess when I think of a good X&O coach I think of the following:
-A guy that can "out-coach" a team with superior talent and get a win that maybe he really shouldn't get.
-A guy that can develop a defensive scheme that will take the other team's best player out of the game and force someone else to beat you.
-A guy that has a team that can consistently score easy buckets from and inbounds situation under the offensive goal.
-A guy that has a team that can consistently score easy buckets when coming out of a timeout with the ball.
-A guy that has an offensive gameplan that yields easy buckets off the halfcourt set.
-A guy who can make in game adjustments to stop the flow of the other team. Self gave a great example of this against us last week...we came out hot in the second half and trimmed the lead to 6 (if I recall correctly) and he called timeout. A few minutes later we were down by 20+.
I clearly understand that talent is critically important...that's why I am a little concerned with recruits coming from small towns in Nebraska.
I wonder why in the world McDermott decided to take such a lousy job as the one at ISU? Did you ever think that he has some culpability in many of the points you list?
He took the one at ISU because it felt right. He could have had the Iowa job if he wanted it, and I'm sure other schools wanted him pretty badly.
Guys let it die. You are never going to prove Cyclones#1 wrong. In his mind he is right and fighting the same points over and over doenst work. No matter what real facts you put out there he will find something to fight back with. Most of us think this program is headed in the right direction, those that dont think that way wont enjoy the ride to the top. Its sad to say we have fans that are this way but I guess we do. Like I said before being a fan is suppose to be fun, if you are not having fun with it why are you a fan? I think no matter who the coach we have to stand behind him and the team, more than ever as they go though rough times.
Just back to the "Post Game" thought, I wanted to say that it was nice to see Craig playing actively and with some confidence again. Hopefully this is the start of a run for him!
When GM took the ISU job, he had two other offers and cancelled a few interviews...He wants to be here.
You watched the Texas game and you don't think we did a good job on Augustin??? Btw, that Missouri team was a COMPLETELY different team when we beat them, so thanks for posting their record now to prove your point, seeing as they lost their best player, among others...and they were ranked in the top 5 of the nation in creating to's...also if you've watched us more than a few games, you would know that we have scored plenty of easy buckets over the last couple years coming out of timeouts and on inbounds play...one more thing...clearly you do not realize that talent has a lot to do with winning or losing, or you wouldn't continually ridicule a guy for losing with this team against the likes of texas and kansas. And don't compare the 80's teams that beat Danny Manning to now, because the talent difference between the two in huge. A coach CAN do a good coaching job and have a good gameplan in a loss, and a coach CAN do a poor coaching job in a win. The majority of it has to do with what the kids on the court do. You are losing credibility (what little you have) with every post...especially the ones where you try to point out examples (things we have done, or ridiculous comparisons that don't make sense...loved your Wes Eikmeier to Patrick Beverly comparison btw, what a ridiculously random comparison between two completely different types of players).
In case you didn't know, he is from the State of Iowa and likes it here.
He also had an offer from K-State and likely several others if he had waited.
Serious question: Who do you want to be coaching Iowa State right now?
Are you aware of the problems Missouri has had this year? Suspensions, their best player being dismissed, etc. They were doing pretty well before that. And as far as their defense being much easier to implement when they're at home -- if you recall, they beat us by 22 (I believe) in Hilton last year. I'd say that's a pretty dramatic improvement.
cyclone#1 said:
You were not impressed at all that we held a KU team to less than 70 points when they went to OT? With a team that was as poor as ours?
cyclone#1 said:
Purdue. At Missouri last year.
cyclone#1 said:
Texas last year. We held Durant to his lowest point total to that point (it may have been his lowest all year, I don't remember) and DJ Augustin ended up beating us. This was also on the road.
Why don't you get off the kid's back and let him prove if he's worthy or not.
For the life of me, I can't figure how someone from Louisiana can be so sure about a kid from Nebraska?
Did you want to axe Jared Homan as well - I mean he's from a small town in Iowa. Obviously he was destined to suck.
He wanted a coach with BCS conference experence. He has said Steve Lavin before, a guy like could have a coaching job if he wanted, but he must not since he is still with ESPN.
Steve Lavin: The only person in the last half century who can have a losing record at UCLA.
I still think losing Floyd was the worst thing that has happened to this program.
We needed Tim to stick around and be the next Orr. His early exit to the Bulls initiated the downward spiral IMO (yes I know we had 2 of our best years after he left).
We needed Tim to stick around and be the next Orr. His early exit to the Bulls initiated the downward spiral IMO (yes I know we had 2 of our best years after he left).
Umm...because he has a drop-dead gorgeous wife? Or did you mean because he's ambitious?
I know, I know...you believe his hands aren't totally clean. I don't think he bends the rules any worse than Bill Self and nothing ever seems to happen to him.
Oh please don't give me this crap because i said Iowa State is terrible that i should be a hawk fan, I have been to every single home basketball game this year and will go to the last one against k-state, but that doesn't mean that we aren't terrible. Can you honestly say that you don't have a hard time watching this basketball team right now? because i sure can. We are not a good team right now, so therefore i have a hard time watching them. Hopefully they can turn it around sooner rather than later. Just because i get frustrated with how below average we are right now does not make me a "fan".
