Rhoads' Contract
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Give Paul the rest of this year. And then dismiss him.
If I may, one of the historic problems of ISU football is the acceptance of mediocrity. Put simply, it's seemingly ok to suck at ISU. We've done it for decades. IMO, that's probably one of the largest issues. I think that everyone latched on to CPR because he doesn't readily accept that and he does it in a brash way. It was refreshing...it was different...but like Mike Tyson says "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". We've been punched in the face repeatedly for years.
CPR isn't going to win games on his own. Having a vision and being able to execute it might be beyond his ability. And if it is, that needs to be recognized and dealt with. He's far enough into his current job to have recruited kids who can get the job done and to know how to utilize them to do so. If we don't see this before the end of the year, Paul has to go and be replaced with someone who has a PROVEN record of success. If we're going to dump money into friggin seats in the south end zone, we should be willing pay a guy to get the job done in the corner office. Our cart is so far in front of the horse right now, I'm not sure the horse can see the cart...and JP is either in the cart, on the horse or wandering around aimlessly.
Blindly dumping CPR and saying you will get a successful Coach is like a Guy who says he is going to Divorce his wife and marry a Beauty with a 7 figure income who is going to Cook, Clean and make love to him when ever he wants.
WHO is this successful Coach you are going to hire?
I am reasonably confident that I heard this from a poster during the season last year. It may not be the team's fault at all rather some asshat Cyclone "fan" getting their wish.
Ok. I'll put on my amateur AD hat and give an answer that no one will like
1. PR is safe for 2014 *and* 2015. Why? The contract is an issue. I wouldn't want to eat that. Plus I'll have a shiny new SEZ to generate ticket sales next year
2. Bowl game or bust in 2015. Our fans are patient and realistic to a point. A trip someplace warm in December 2015 or it's time to part ways
3. If (big if) PR must go then I break the bank and overpay for an established coach. (Project: Johnny Orr) I say this because I feel the fan base is starting to sour on the "hope" sales pitch. The last "hot" coordinator hire didn't pan out either. I also can see a futue where the Power 5 leaves us behind without some kind of football success. The fan base will demand Ditka, but I will resist. Sage is on speed dial as my Project: Fred if I can't sell an established winner to relocate to Ames. (Half joking)
PR knows today that he must produce. The facilities are in place. We cannot have excuses or any losses to FCS schools. JP has tied his own hands with the current contract, but I believe PR will have 23 games to save his job. 1 loss doesn't make a season, but the pattern is disturbing
I've never seen a fan base lose it so bad after losing a game that they were only a 3.5 point favorite to win.
Sincerely,
Cool Story Bro
Sincerely,
Cool Story Bro
The main issue with this point is that "people" will ask, if a coach is so established, why would they come to Iowa State? If there is an established guy he more than likely has offers from more traditional football schools.
Stormin...if you're trying to argue...it won't work. I didn't say to do anything blindly. I said give him the rest of the year. If he doesn't execute what is expected, he should be fired. That's what happens in both college athletics and in the real world...you execute the plan or someone else replaces you. You don't have to have a person in mind to replace him...but you clearly lay out the expectations and the ramifications.
I don't know who we should hire. I can't answer that question. But money talks...and my point is simple, if you put enough out there, someone will come.
If your solution is to give him more time and resources, I don't think anything will change and it will remain ok in Ames to have a crappy FB program. I know, I know, we won't have that feel good weekly story about the guy who grew up in the shadow of Trice...sometimes I think people in Iowa (Ames) are too nice.
I don't know who we should hire. I can't answer that question. But money talks...and my point is simple, if you put enough out there, someone will come.
If your solution is to give him more time and resources, I don't think anything will change and it will remain ok in Ames to have a crappy FB program. I know, I know, we won't have that feel good weekly story about the guy who grew up in the shadow of Trice...sometimes I think people in Iowa (Ames) are too nice.
Loyal Son Forever True. Go Clones. At times its frustrating but win or lose you have my support.
CPR and CW, sorry about all the little babies:cry: that post negative, ignorant, clueless post. They likely know little to nothing about operating a FB program. It would seem that in another life they were successful at everything they attempted or.. have had everything given to them. Its sad that so many people don't know how to be a true fan and support their college, team, and staff. I appreciate your hard work and dedication to the cyclones in your attempt to make my football game experience as enjoyable as possible.
GO Clones!!!! Beat K-State!
Loyal Son Forever True.
CPR and CW, sorry about all the little babies:cry: that post negative, ignorant, clueless post. They likely know little to nothing about operating a FB program. It would seem that in another life they were successful at everything they attempted or.. have had everything given to them. Its sad that so many people don't know how to be a true fan and support their college, team, and staff. I appreciate your hard work and dedication to the cyclones in your attempt to make my football game experience as enjoyable as possible.
GO Clones!!!! Beat K-State!
Loyal Son Forever True.
That's really why I added "break the bank" to that line. ISU would have to overpay greatly to attract an established coach to Ames.
If PR is gone then JP has exhausted the hope and hot coordinator sales pitches. Established coach is almost the only avenue left to attract fans other than actual wins.
Sell Bobby Utter autographed helmets, bake sales, car washes....whatever means to get the extra $$ would have to be on the table. This includes cutting baseball
Stormin...if you're trying to argue...it won't work. I didn't say to do anything blindly. I said give him the rest of the year. If he doesn't execute what is expected, he should be fired. That's what happens in both college athletics and in the real world...you execute the plan or someone else replaces you. You don't have to have a person in mind to replace him...but you clearly lay out the expectations and the ramifications.
I don't know who we should hire. I can't answer that question. But money talks...and my point is simple, if you put enough out there, someone will come.
If your solution is to give him more time and resources, I don't think anything will change and it will remain ok in Ames to have a crappy FB program. I know, I know, we won't have that feel good weekly story about the guy who grew up in the shadow of Trice...sometimes I think people in Iowa (Ames) are too nice.
I simply asked WHO you are planning to replace him with?
IMO, he gets next year no matter what. I give him that. DMAC was given more time after starting out with a 6-1 record in 2002 and finishing with a 7-7 record followed by a 2-10 mark in 2003. 2006 season was 4-8 with a one point win over UNI, narrow win over a crappy UNLV team and a 3 OT win over a crappy Toledo team. And one conference win in the final home game against Mizzou. No road wins.......again.
It doesn't, but when six or seven wins is your ceiling for the previous decade a step back will be three or four wins. Much more acceptable to have only three or four wins than at Florida, which only had four wins last season.
We just need to find our own Bill Snyder. Someone go find us a Bill Snyder but one that's alive preferably.
Or someone cut a piece of his hair on Saturday. I'm sure there is a lab at ISU somewhere that a 40 year old Bill Snyder clone can be made.
The big problem is that we were only a 3.5 point favorite to win against a lower division team in our house.
That we lost, is an even bigger problem.
Satisfaction has little do with expectations in a particular game. Otherwise, coaches could just set expectations so low, that meeting those expectations would be quite easy.
In other words, it's not okay to suck just because you expect to suck.
Kind of silly to be talking about firing a Coach that is "safe" for 2014 and 2015. Better to see how things turn out over that time.
Rest assured that IF we have terrible seasons in 2014 and 2015 that JP will be talking to CPR. Count on it.
