It makes me sad that this thread is still going, while my JTS janitor one was closed down... :sad:
You are the President of ISU..
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I believe he got a $450k bonus last year and think he normally makes around $450k-$500k.
That said, I disagree with your bolded statement. Take a look at what he has done with the AD revenue...it's more than doubled since he started. He also has attendance (for all sports combined) at the highest level its ever been. I'd argue he is underpaid.
Typical Iowa State Fan. Always living in the past instead of looking towards the future.
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Lets say you're the admin for this board. Do you ban the OP for being an idiot or just let him continue to dig a deeper hole?
Thanks for the information, 450-500K a year makes a lot more sense. I've said in other posts that JP has done some good things, and raising money is one of them. I just believe that the explosion of tv money the last few years is the biggest reason for the increased money flow. But I think we all know that the health of the athletic department depends mostly on the health of the football program. If it doesn't get turned around and people stop showing up, as I said the whole athletic department suffers. That's why imo it's important that the a.d. has a background in and knows football. I know that's not the opinion of JP's supporters, but when some (not you) resort to name calling, they aren't doing JP any good.
I have to wonder where we would be in terms of conference if JP wasn't or AD. Would the Big XII even exist - or would ISU still be a part of it.
I'm not trying to overstate his importance or pull within the conference. But I just wonder. I do recall a lot of commentary on how he was burning up the phones when things appeared to be bleak.
Conversely - if Bruce was still in charge I think we would be AA by now (only joking about 48.3% there)
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You might say I'm a supporter of innocent until proven guilty, you know, kind of like the opinion of the County Attorney, ALJ, and District Judge. With BuBu working Fred's camp this summer, sounds like he's a supporter of the American justice system too.
Pretty hard to know what would happen playing the "what if" game. I can just as easily think that if BVD were still here we might have had a better situation in football the last 8 years, who knows. But I often see JP's promoters putting down BVD, which is their opinion, but it doesn't make JP look any better. BVD won a national award for A.D of the year and we had great accomplishments in football and basketball while he was here. No need to put him down because the JP promoters just lose credibility when they do.
You, cylove...both of you....GTFO. You take an already stupid thread and start talking Bubu in it? :no::no:
Just responding to the post addressed to me about BuBu, don't read it if it upsets you too much.
I love the don't read it comeback, the most lazy in all of the internet. You can have an opinion, but I can't have an opinion of your opinion. And, a dumb conversation doesn't become a dumb conversation without two people, unless one is a nutball.
You're the one that responded with GTFO, so who is it that doesn't want to hear somebody else's opinion? Enough said.
Actually if you go back and look at my posting history I was very excited about Brian Kelly, who we were being led to believe was our next head coach. A lot of us thought Kelly would be a great hire. I thought Chiz was like the Donnie Duncan hire (successfull a.d. at a program where it would be hard not to be a successful a.d.). I wasn't crazy about GMac mostly because of his altercation with Homan and Morgan, plus we already had a coach that had beat two of his best 3 teams, and you can check my posting history on that one too. So yes, as you said it's easy to sit back and believe what I post, otherwise I wouldn't post it. I'll agree hiring Fred the first time would have taken more balls, but if you believe we wouldn't have been better off hiring Fred the first time than enduring 5 years of G-Mac, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it's not mine. I guarantee you if I knew Fred wanted the job when Morgan was fired I would have been yelling on here to hire Fred then just as I was yelling on here to hire Fred once we knew GMac was leaving.
BVD was awful. You might be only person I've ever seen defend him. His handling of Eustachy was inexcusable. Wait for days to make a decision and THEN fire him after Larry goes on air to admit he has a problem. We looked heartless and stupid.
Where did I say basketball is a non-revenue sport? Especially at elite programs like Kansas and Duke no doubt basketball makes the athletic department a lot of money, though with their small arena I wonder if basketball generates as much money as football at Duke. But I'll re-phrase my statement- "as a general rule, when the football program suffers, the athletic department suffers".
I've posted before that I didn't think the LE situation was handled very well by BVD. I would have put LE on a year's leave to deal with his problems, and gone from there. But it was a very bad situation once the pictures went public and the media ran with it, and LE himself has admitted he created the mess, and also said he probably couldn't have dealt with his problems had he stayed in Ames. Yes BVD probably should have made LE deal with his problems sooner, but LE was still a very popular coach and it wasn't BVD that drank too much and got his picture taken at college parties. Some seem to want to blame BVD for problems that LE himself has taken responsibility for (to his credit). BVD wasn't perfect, but he did some good things while at ISU and doesn't deserve the ripping he so often gets from JP's promoters imo.
