REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept

[mctallerton]

But if people affected by the decision FELT that it was done for nickel and dime reason then that's all that matters. Tell a player who is sore from a long weekend of basketball who has to lay down on a ballroom floor that he's doing it because it saves the university $25,000 and he probably won't be very happy with the decision, knowing that the school is going to get a fat check for millions of dollars thanks to his play for the University. Do you think that Duke or Kentucky is saving that $25,000 or do you think they are making sure their players are comfortable at all times regardless of cost?

My middle finger gets a ***** every time you post.

 

[Tedcyclone]

Between holding onto Rhoads (a bad football coach) and essentially helping Hoiberg (amazing basketball coach) leave his hometown, I wouldn't be the least bit sorry to see Pollard go. With that said, I do realize he has done some good things here for ISU with all the facility upgrades.

Some good things?! He hired Fred FYI. He has raised attendance at football games from about 35k to 61500. He talked smack to Iowa from the get go. Thats just a few of the many items.

 

[jsb]

If Fred said the money wasn't the issue... then JP proceeds to make a public offering of $5Mil plus a huge buyout, knowing what Fred will say and Fred does decline .... It makes Fred look bad, all for nothing but proving a point. Is that what you wanted, to embarrass Fred?

JP has more class than playing that scenario out.

apparenrly he has more class than that. But the sources of the story have no problem embarrassing Jamie and those were Fred's friends.

 

[randomfan44]

But when the two people your entire article was written about immediately state that everything in the article is wrong, it makes the "unnamed" sources pretty worthless.

Did you expect Pollard to CONFIRM everything in the story if it is true? He would basically be handing in his resignation letter if he did that. Maybe this is just a situation where Pollard believes that he is properly balancing being fiscally responsible but that others affected by his decisions and policies feel that he is going a little over the top. I've had a boss before who was so focused on the bottom line that her decisions handcuffed employees from being able to do the best job possible. I don't want to have to put together an argument to defend a request for a $50 software license for a program that will help me do my job better. Get me what I need and go back to sitting around at meetings with the big wigs.

 

[keepngoal]

apparenrly he has more class than that. But the sources of the story have no problem embarrassing Jamie and those were Fred's friends.

so these friends of Fred's wanted to embarrass Fred when he declined the $5mil offer? I wouldn't call them friends. I could only call them donors.

 

[Gnomeborg]

But if people affected by the decision FELT that it was done for nickel and dime reason then that's all that matters. Tell a player who is sore from a long weekend of basketball who has to lay down on a ballroom floor that he's doing it because it saves the university $25,000 and he probably won't be very happy with the decision, knowing that the school is going to get a fat check for millions of dollars thanks to his play for the University. Do you think that Duke or Kentucky is saving that $25,000 or do you think they are making sure their players are comfortable at all times regardless of cost?

you're ridiculous.

 

[Tedcyclone]

Wait, so in the KXNO interview didn't Jamie say that Travis gave HIM the line "You've got a job to do, I've got a job to do", now in this he's saying that Travis gave that line to Fred?

Nope in the KXNO interview he said that Travis said that to Fred.

 

[aauummm]

Travis Hines-New Job

Leath: "Journalism is a very honorable profession, but not all journalists are honorable. Unfortunately we saw an example of that today." :wideeyed:

Looks like Travis Hines got an "F" on his attempt at "investigative journalism"! He took four or five months to investigate that and came up with "Motelgate"? Every one at the Ames Tribune is culpable in this fiasco of a report. I hope Travis will enjoy his new job as a door-to-door advertising salesman with the Minot Daily News, Minot North Dakota!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TwWs93K5w&feature=youtu.be

 

[keepngoal]

Re: Travis Hines-New Job

Looks like Travis Hines got an "F" on his attempt at "investigative journalism"! He took four or five months to investigate that and came up with "Motelgate"? Every one at the Ames Tribune is culpable in this fiasco of a report. I hope Travis will enjoy his new job as a door-to-door advertising salesman with the Minot Daily News, Minot North Dakota!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TwWs93K5w&feature=youtu.be

don't wish anyone to work that crappy company ... seriously. crappy.

 

[rholtgraves]

Pollard is just trying to save his own skin.

 

[isufbcurt]

Leath: "Journalism is a very honorable profession, but not all journalists are honorable. Unfortunately we saw an example of that today." :wideeyed:

I haven't been a Leath fan, but that earned my respect.

 

[keepngoal]

Pollard is just trying to save his own skin.

we get it, you don't like Pollard.

But saying the above over and over, doesn't change that youre wrong.

 

[thatguy]

so Pollard is a ****.

Hoiburg is king of cya.

Hines isn't that informed.


So no new news here. All stuff we already new.

 

[isufbcurt]

Pollard is just trying to save his own skin.

Doubtful considering the comments Leath made

 

[Dingus]

If Fred said the money wasn't the issue... then JP proceeds to make a public offering of $5Mil plus a huge buyout, knowing what Fred will say and Fred does decline .... It makes Fred look bad, all for nothing but proving a point. Is that what you wanted, to embarrass Fred?

JP has more class than playing that scenario out.

I don't see how that would have made Fred look bad. All it would do is reinforce the 'I'm following my dream' scenario and quiet the people who think/thought it was about money.

No one faults someone for NOT following the money.

 

[randomfan44]

Nobody here knows what Duke or Kentucky would do in that exact situation. Nobody.

Again, it doesn't matter what they would have done. If the players, coaches and staff felt like it was a nickel and dime move that would never happen at one of those places then that's all that matters. SOMEONE in that ballroom was complaining about the situation to Hines and probably offloaded other examples of things that they felt was also nickel and dime stuff, that much is pretty clear. It's all about perception and the perception is that teams like Duke and Kentucky don't do things like that and that if ISU wants to rise to that level then they shouldn't be doing that kind of stuff, either. That's all I am saying. There is no "right or wrong" when it comes to perception.

 

[CloneFan4]

I haven't been a Leath fan, but that earned my respect.

The whole time this was going on yesterday the "House of Cards" fan in me was picturing some elaborate scheme where Leath and high up donors were using Travis as a puppet to smear Pollard.

Disclaimer for those in this thread that struggle with reading comprehension: This is not the case

 

[rholtgraves]

Doubtful considering the comments Leath made

A president sticking up for his university? Shocking!

 

[Judoka]

Leath: "Journalism is a very honorable profession, but not all journalists are honorable. Unfortunately we saw an example of that today." :wideeyed:

lol, Leath must be pretty mad. Though to some extent I agree. Hines didn't outright lie in anything. But he definitely played up small stuff (the hotel) to make it seem like a big deal and failed to verify other things (like tickets for assistant coaches and flying families to NCAAs) for the purpose of making the story seem bigger than it was.

 

[keepngoal]

I don't see how that would have made Fred look bad. All it would do is reinforce the 'I'm following my dream' scenario and quiet the people who think/thought it was about money.

No one faults someone for NOT following the money.

if the pay was the same for the ISU and Bulls job, note Fred already said no to Jamie about more money, and now Fred has to say I want to coach the Bulls over ISU ... how is that not embarrassing? Besides Fred was clear from day one that the NBA was his goal.