What does it have ISU finishing?
Imo it’s reasonable to think we’ve both earned #11, and are not the 11th best team. I think a lot of voters convolute the two at their whim
What will ISU be ranked?
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Imo it’s reasonable to think we’ve both earned #11, and are not the 11th best team. I think a lot of voters convolute the two at their whim
I know it might have updated but I see...
20-11 (8-10)
#8 seed
That is running the model using data from last year and the preseason, though, which currently combines with data from this season to have Iowa State as the #43 team in the country.
Force it to rerun that model with Iowa State as #18 (which only uses data from this year) --
23-8 (10-8)
#4 seed
How in the hell is 4 loss Michigan getting votes in the top 25.....
Only "good" win is a quad 2 win against Buffalo in their first game of the year.
Some people don't deserve earth's oxygen...
Only "good" win is a quad 2 win against Buffalo in their first game of the year.
Some people don't deserve earth's oxygen...
Crupea ... I have no idea what's up with his recent votes. Also elevated BYU from #24 to #22 AND U-M from #22 to #21 from week 5 to 6, despite both LOSING.
Yes, 6-4 Michigan. That one.
Among other anomalies.
From what I gather, at least DeKock's "system" has some kind of consistency (even if it's bogus assessment).
Y'know I appreciate guys who have a system, and write about their decisions openly and honestly. It means they are actually trying to do it right. Better than guys who look at last week's poll, rearrange some things based on git feelings based on the 2 games they watched that week and submit it.
Imagine if we had this schedule the rest of the season…
At the opposite end of the spectrum, highest for ISU is #8 (three voters) - one is Chris Murray, who if memory serves is favorable to ISU ... and this week has 7 Big 12.
1 Baylor
8 Iowa State
9 Kansas
16 Oklahoma
19 Texas
24 Texas Tech
25 West Virginia
1 Baylor
8 Iowa State
9 Kansas
16 Oklahoma
19 Texas
24 Texas Tech
25 West Virginia
I think there should be an evaluation after the year is done to decided if you can be a part of the voting process the following year. maybe there is? just feels like most of these guys vote based off name and don't put any effort in to it all.
just seem like if you broke down the voting members history and you find a lot of things that don't make sense, they are obviously not paying attention and need to give up your voting rights. of course this has been going on for years now.
just seem like if you broke down the voting members history and you find a lot of things that don't make sense, they are obviously not paying attention and need to give up your voting rights. of course this has been going on for years now.
Maybe hanging 102 on Nebby is worth a couple of votes? Because you are right.......there is nothing else they have done this year to elicit a single vote.
Their football team beat tOSU and is in the playoffs. Seriously AP voters are dumb as ****. CBS Top 25 and 1 (along with the analytical sites) is what I care about.
I am an NCSU fan as well by way of my master's degree, in general the sports media down here is just continually in shock about the state of the ACC in basketball lately.
I was using the default model with preseason and recruiting assumptions
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“Just” two games different. Such a fine line in which the same team has a multitude of reasonably possible outcomes.
An interesting question, would you take 8-10 right now? Likely as much a question of ones risk aversion than a statement on your view of the team, but….
Although leaving some upside on the table, I would lock in 8-10 and making the tournament in Year 1. The Big 12 is absolutely brutal this year, and I think we’re going to struggle to score on the way to close losses.
It’s disturbing that people in charge of these polls didn’t look at Ken Pom and see that Iowa is 20 spots ahead, Memphis 11 spots and Xavier 26 spots better than ISU. When an undefeated team is that far behind not one, not two, but three teams they absolutely handled it should tell you that at this point in time it is not a valid model.
Agreed, I'd even take 7-11 probably. This is a rough rough schedule. I'd like to defend Hilton 5/9 times and grab a few road games.
1: NET (Unfortunately, but it's what the committee uses)
2/3: KenPom and Torvik
4: Massey composite
5: Parrish's Top 25 and 1
Basically his argument is that they are way below in terms of torvik and KenPom compared to the other teams he is comparing them against. Which is at least a coherent argument, unlike the Oregonian guy.
Looking at the new Men's and Women's polls...
ISU is one of 10 teams with both of their teams ranked:
ISU is one of 10 teams with both of their teams ranked:
