As bad as the last two years were, what he left TJ was some talent with no strings to rebuild on. Can you imagine if Fred and Matt had brought what is happening over at NU to ISU? What if TJ were still on Fred's staff when it was happening? Not a good look. Either way it's seems now that for all parties concerned with ISU men's basketball it was good Fred left.
Hoiberg and Nebraska Basketball In Trouble
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As bad as the last two years were, what he left TJ was some talent with no strings to rebuild on. Can you imagine if Fred and Matt had brought what is happening over at NU to ISU? What if TJ were still on Fred's staff when it was happening? Not a good look. Either way it's seems now that for all parties concerned with ISU men's basketball it was good Fred left.
Maybe Fred got a taste of getting paid to stay away and was like, you know what, that's not all bad.
I heard later even Mayo's people were shocked Floyd showed up himself with the envelope.
Hoiberg bringing down Nebraska might be his saving grace in my eyes.
The problem with the "It's Nebraska" handwaving is that he's not doing poorly relative to college basketball or power conference teams. If this is his last year, the Hoiberg era will be the worst at least going back to WWII in the history of Nebraska. So he's horrible relative to Nebrasketball history.
As for the "can't get players" argument, if you dropped McGowen and Breidenbach (who just went down for the year the past game) into ISU, they would be the #1 and #11 all-time highest ranked players at ISU as far back as 247 tracks that, which looks like nearly 20 years. In fact, 8 of the top 20 recruits on 247 have occurred since Fred arrived. A couple have transferred out, and clearly some/most haven't panned out. But he's actually recruited to Nebraska well relative to its history.
It's clearly a hard job with no history, and there isn't a ton of talent there. But there's a lot more wrong than just "you can't win at Nebraska in hoops." No doubt it's difficult, but he's managing to fail at a rate no one else at Nebraska has for at least 80 years. That's something.
What if...what if Fred is actually running a long con effort to sink Nebrasketball to complete and total irrelevancy forever, including heavy NCAA sanctions?
124 year old program without an NCAA tournament win.
It seems like their best years were the 1910s in the Missouri Valley.
It seems like their best years were the 1910s in the Missouri Valley.
Just saw an article from the Omaha World-Herald that Nebraska was shooting 25% from 3PT for the season after the Michigan game. Yowza.
Fred and Matt can't recruit some shooters? (Seemingly, even by bending the rules?)
Fred and Matt can't recruit some shooters? (Seemingly, even by bending the rules?)
Going off of a vague memory.... I thought Matt A's name came up in the NCAA investigations from a few years back (you know the investigation that pointed fingers at KU and never have materialized into sanctions?). Did Matt A's name get thrown around with recruiting of Monte Morris? I don't think it was a major issue.. something like buying breakfast for Monte and his Mom at a McDonalds? Again, allegedly and I remember we are talking about an Egg McMuffin with coffee.. not something substantial.
Hoiberg has done a bad job, that’s true. As HC it’s ultimately all on him.
But it’s not a talented team right now. Yeah Breidenbach and McGowans were good recruits whether it be NU or ISU. But as freshman not guys you want to depend on. McGowans not far off as a recruit as Hunter, and I wouldn’t want to see this year with Hunter and Breidenbach being the most talented guys.
Theyre worse than they should be, but Verge and McGowans and a okay freshman post recruit isn’t enough to do well. Imo Fred’s quit, and like Prohm last year, things quickly get out of hand when that occurs
I could not have anticipated a better outcome when he got that job. Nothing against Hoiberg, but if he can last another year and/or get them sanctioned for the next coach that would be it.It’s going to be a bummer when this turns out to just be a way for NU to get a free reset of their program
Darius Perry out of Atlanta was one Prohm was actively recruiting and stopped once his parents wanted money to secure his commitment. His family even drove down to the Emerald Coast Classic in November of 2015 to come watch Iowa State.
They were long drawn out public swing and misses too. We will never get back all those hours spent learning everything about Rashad Vaughn and Chiek Diallo. I knew more about them than Georges & Co. when they stepped on campus...
NOBODY HAD EVEN TOLD ME HE PLAYED WITH NERLENS NOEL!!!!
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FBI probe: Monte Morris' mother denies that former Iowa State star accepted anything illegal
Monte Morris is listed as allegedly meeting or having meals with a sports agency that under investigation
amp.desmoinesregister.com
It's not shocking. College basketball is a dirty business. Not a big deal but personally would prefer to not see Hoiberg dragged through the mud by USA Today and affect his legacy. I know others feel differently.
