It still is a Cyclone State.
One more week. I must have been really high when I agreed to those terms.
Yeah but the rest of us have enjoyed it.
It still is a Cyclone State.
One more week. I must have been really high when I agreed to those terms.
I'm wondering about HS performance's impact on college admission and financial aid ... (not just from Cyclone13 ... from anyone)
My son is an 8th grader, very intelligent. He has consistently taken math up 1 grade.
Because we value trying hard and habits of character, we have pushed him to take challenging classes (and he's in a private school that is rigorous).
My sister, who has kids that are older, would say that we're doing it all wrong. Her point is that you should take the fluffiest classes possible, get the highest GPA possible, because it's just "a game" for college admission and scholarships, and you need to look good on paper.
To a degree, she's right -- my son might end up with a 3.2 GPA while being challenged, whereas if he took easy classes at an easier school, he might be 3.9. (Even though he could likely run circles around the kids to took nothing but "fluffy" classes.)
Who's right?
(EDIT: he says he wants to go into Engineering or computer science, etc. If that matters. And I know lots of kids change their mind.)
The quality of the high school is a major issue as well. You want to be on either end of the spectrum, a star at a great school or a star at an extremely poor school. Legit had a friend in HS that was told by Stanford that our HS simply didn’t rank high enough to be considered. She ended up at northwestern instead and really liked it but a lot of that stuff matters to the very elite schools.Regular schools take GPAs only. Excellent schools look at rigors. Your B+ in AP or dual enrollment classes will look better han A in regular (non-honors or non AP).
Excellent/selective schools actually will do a deep analysis on the schools especially if they are reputable high schools. The colleges know what courses offered at HS and they could see whether the students coast at HS or challenge themselves.
They bought Berkshire stock in the 70's. A lot of females from east coast use Grinnel as a safety School of they don't get into Smith or Wellesley, etc.I have known that Grinnell College is supposedly an elite college but I don't think I know a single person who has gone there. It is bonkers to me that they have a nearly 3 billion dollar endowment.
It still is a Cyclone State.I have known that Grinnell College is supposedly an elite college but I don't think I know a single person who has gone there. It is bonkers to me that they have a nearly 3 billion dollar endowment.
Regular schools take GPAs only. Excellent schools look at rigors. Your B+ in AP or dual enrollment classes will look better han A in regular (non-honors or non AP).
Excellent/selective schools actually will do a deep analysis on the schools especially if they are reputable high schools. The colleges know what courses offered at HS and they could see whether the students coast at HS or challenge themselves.
The quality of the high school is a major issue as well. You want to be on either end of the spectrum, a star at a great school or a star at an extremely poor school. Legit had a friend in HS that was told by Stanford that our HS simply didn’t rank high enough to be considered. She ended up at northwestern instead and really liked it but a lot of that stuff matters to the very elite schools.
ISU only look at GPA. I think ISU and Iowa just require students to meet the admission index and as long as they meet the requirement, they are good to go. I might be wrong though.Would schools like ISU, Purdue (for Engineering, computer stuff, etc) and similar take into account rigor?
Or do they JUST look at GPA / standard testing for admission & scholarships?
This. You make a big deal out of it until you don’t have it. Like the Iowa and their football team this year.I never heard of AAU until this forum.
Everyone else can speak to the ISU part but most schools like Purdue rerank things like GPA. Also some schools let you come in as a certain major, others you have to apply for a specific major, and for some high demand you have to apply for entry while already enrolled after your freshman/soph year.Would schools like ISU, Purdue (for Engineering, computer stuff, etc) and similar take into account rigor?
Or do they JUST look at GPA / standard testing for admission & scholarships?
ND does not have a Med school. They do biomedical research and have a partnership with IU Med School in South Bend with various research areas including global health.AAU is based on grant money at the graduate level, ND does very little research, and has few masters programs. I doubt that AAU would even bother giving them a look. World class undergraduate school, with a top ranked Law and Med schools.
This is correct. And for the high end ones in this article, it's not only GPA, SAT, & honors curriculum, but also essays, volunteer work and frankly connections. Daughter was a 4.0 student taking all honors classes at a decent to good high school. Was either rejected or wait-listed by all the schools on this list that she applied. Still got into a 'good' school, but not on this tier. She's now top of her class in Med school, so their loss.The quality of the high school is a major issue as well. You want to be on either end of the spectrum, a star at a great school or a star at an extremely poor school. Legit had a friend in HS that was told by Stanford that our HS simply didn’t rank high enough to be considered. She ended up at northwestern instead and really liked it but a lot of that stuff matters to the very elite schools.
It doesn't hurt to have the founder of Intel among your graduates.They bought Berkshire stock in the 70's. A lot of females from east coast use Grinnel as a safety School of they don't get into Smith or Wellesley, etc.
Yeah, the other advantage of the AP classes is that it counts toward college. My son started at ISU this year with 39 college credits. So he started 9 hours into his sophomore year. Saving me $25k give or take. ISU uses the RAI to admit, and he was admitted at the end of his junior year so it allowed him to apply for housing early and got his first choice, and some academic scholarship money. He was top 5% at Centennial and didn't study for ACT. He thought he could just retake whatever section he needed to raise it. He got a 25 or something and decided not to waste time or money retaking it as his RAI was around 280. My summary, quality of classes matter for a high school that uses the weighted GPA. If the high school doesn't she may be right.Your sister is 100% wrong here. The schools weigh those harder classes differently. Once you submit your application the school (especially the elite ones) redo all that information. A kid that gets a 3.8 with all AP classes is going to get rated higher then a kid with a 4.0 with taking just basic or elective classes.
If you plan on going to grad school your undergrad doesn’t matter to the degree that it does if you plan on working right after undergrad. If they want to go to engineering go to the best engineering school possible. It pays off with connections and future relationships.
ACT composite (or converted SAT) score x 3 | |
+ | Cumulative GPA x 30 |
+ | Number of years of high school core courses x 5 |
RAI (Regent Admission Index) |
This is correct. And for the high end ones in this article, it's not only GPA, SAT, & honors curriculum, but also essays, volunteer work and frankly connections. Daughter was a 4.0 student taking all honors classes at a decent to good high school. Was either rejected or wait-listed by all the schools on this list that she applied. Still got into a 'good' school, but not on this tier. She's now top of her class in Med school, so their loss.![]()
Tell her to think long and hard about what speciality she wants to go in. Medicine is a mess right now.This is correct. And for the high end ones in this article, it's not only GPA, SAT, & honors curriculum, but also essays, volunteer work and frankly connections. Daughter was a 4.0 student taking all honors classes at a decent to good high school. Was either rejected or wait-listed by all the schools on this list that she applied. Still got into a 'good' school, but not on this tier. She's now top of her class in Med school, so their loss.![]()
Not that I've met a lot of them but the few Notre Dame grads I've met, I've liked.Any Georgetown grad I’ve met, oof can I say snooty.. they’re Notre Dame arrogant
I could've written almost the exact same paragraph. Except, my daughter is still pre-med but she's at the top of her class and has a terrific MCAT score.This is correct. And for the high end ones in this article, it's not only GPA, SAT, & honors curriculum, but also essays, volunteer work and frankly connections. Daughter was a 4.0 student taking all honors classes at a decent to good high school. Was either rejected or wait-listed by all the schools on this list that she applied. Still got into a 'good' school, but not on this tier. She's now top of her class in Med school, so their loss.![]()