With all the product placement in his videos, he must be doing well financially! Good for him!
***2024 US Open Golf Thread Pinehurst #2***
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With all the product placement in his videos, he must be doing well financially! Good for him!
This is where the PGA Tour has a problem. Professional sports league all hold player rights to certain things. The problem is a player problem. Pro golfers, or at least the "stars" we have are a stuffy, boring group and they aren't going to create intrigue on the course or really anywhere else until they have to or until it somehow becomes acceptable. Most of them take themselves entirely too seriously as professional athletes, likely because of their upbringing relative to other athletes and the status quo for players. The guys who are interesting are usually guys who don't have the country club background. The Dahmens, the Homas, hell even the Tigers have something in their background that has caused them to have a much different perspective in regard to what they're doing for a living and how they act.
I don't really think all these guys are boring but I think they have way too many people around them keeping them buttoned up. I think Spieth is incredibly interesting and has a great sense of humor. The problem is he's been a very average PGA Tour Player for a few years now. JT may flat out stink. Rickie is probably just an average guy from here on out. Cantlay is a loaf of bread. Xander can say some interesting things once in awhile but for whatever reason he hasn't caught on. Scottie is objectively maybe the best dude in the world but that also means he's boring. The thing is, this is new. Outside of maybe 5 guys, the best golfers in the world at any one time are mostly boring and that brings me back around to Tigerflation and that this may just be more of a natural adjustment than it is a crisis.
Nailed it.
I can’t stand Bryson. I can’t stand Koepka. Was never a fan of Phil either.
Bryson is an unapologetic nerd, with seemingly zero self-awareness. Koepka is a total heel. Phil is a shill.
All of them have more personality, individually, than Scheffler, Morikawa, Xander and Cantlay combined. Of the 4, Xander has a bit of a stinker persona in him, but I don’t think he’ll ever let it out, and the guys who do have some personality (ie Homa, Fowler, JT, Spieth) aren’t good enough to carry the torch right now.
The USA chant is in reference to Rory's incident at the Ryder cup last year with Cantlay's caddie, then an ensuing confrontation in the parking lot with another caddie.
Edit: The USA chants started when Rory was on #18.
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I'd say it's more on the side of a little too on the nose considering we like to make weapons sales to them.
The thing with Tiger, I think, is his personality wasn’t amazing, it’s that he just flat out dominated in a way that hadn’t been seen, and doing it in a way that hadn’t been seen. His personality showed on the course with his fist pumps and he really fed off the energy of the crowd. The crowd, in turn, got behind him the likes we may never see again. It really is a fascinating study what Tiger did to golf. The guys behind him benefited immensely and I agree I think we are seeing a move back to the norm versus golf not being as popular.
Tiger made golf absolute must see TV, and we just don’t have that any longer. Not to say these guys are phenomenal golfers and especially scheffler recently, but he shows zero emotion on the course.
I don't know, young Tiger was pretty likeable IMO.
I get the allure of pretty much every golf personality/group but I will forever be mystified by Rick Shiels and Mark Crossfield. What a couple of dweebs.
I'm probably biased because Crossfield was the first golf Youtube I watched, but his golf vlogs with him, Coach and Ray were great for the banter, but he doesn't really do those anymore. I've never been a Shiels guy though.
Tiger played golf in a way no one had seen. He was more animated than pretty much anyone and he did things that weren’t common place. The way in which he was able to strike the ball with the equipment he had back then was just different. Add on top of that he looked different than everyone else and it was just very compelling. I would say the only thing close to him was Michelle Wie in how different they were in their abilities for their time. Current equipment makes it a lot harder for someone to stick out like that.
I kind of feel the same on Shiels but he does good product reviews.
He was one of the first to hit big on YouTube golf wasn’t he? Maybe just some momentum.
I like him. Maybe I just like listening to the accent, but he does some interesting stuff. That said, I don't watch very often anymore because my game suffers when I get too many thoughts rolling around in my head while I am preparing to swing.
Yeah, I don't watch any of his product reviews or teaching videos. I only watch his Breaking 75 videos if I don't have anything else to watch. Occasionally he'll have pros play with him which are must watches.
Yeah, I have watched a few of those (Tommy Fleetwood was a good one). I also like the odd challenge where he'll play a round with only certain clubs or something.
