8 year-old assaulted on bus. Advice plz.

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There's a line of nonsense being followed that asserts that every child has a right to an education, even when that child is actively disturbing the right to an education for everyone around them.
The problem is deciding where that line is and like that other guy said, funding other avenues for kids who are problems.
 

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Not formally, TBH. He's a unique child, as they all are. In particular he is a generally fearless and resilient little guy. Maybe he doesn't understand what he should feel, and maybe it's on me for not making him see someone professionally. Idk. This situation sucks.
I’m not a therapist or anything, however I’d wager a guess that not all trauma shows itself that easily. Again, no idea if he would need to see anybody, but I’d ask his pediatrician about it at least.
 
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The problem is deciding where that line is and like that other guy said, funding other avenues for kids who are problems.
The line is being disruptive of the education and well being of others (including teachers). As to the latter, all the system should afford you is the right to an opportunity for an education. If you blow it due to your behavior (whether it's one severe incident or repeated incidents that lead to permanent expulsion), the most I would grant them is the opportunity to learn remotely.
 

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ER, 2-3 dr visits, 1-2 casts……..probably 2k-2500 I would guess. To some of us, that’s not next to nothing. I didn’t even factor in any PT which seems to be common now for everything. That’s be 200-350/ visit.
His arm had a dramatic V shape right below the mid point of the forearm. The bone was snapped clean through.

The Dr. wanted to put the poor kid under general anesthesia so he could manipulate his arm freely without causing excruciating pain. Great choice, but this obviously increased the cost dramatically. I can look it up later. Everything else you listed seems fairly accurate without looking at the hospital statements.

ER visit. Surgery. 1 splint 2 casts. I can't recall exactly how many dr visits. (It is all documented and my lawyer has it too.)

I have insurance. I won't say how much i paid out of pocket. Total cost was more like $8,000 total. Don't hold me to that. And yes thank you, It was not next to nothing to me lol! We also have two other kids to support.
 
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Two Words: Incident Report.

Why wasn't one filed by the driver on the date of the assault?
Honestly, I have come to suspect our local police aren't very good at their jobs.

Particularly the one who handled our case. But no one else would help us when he was "on vacation", which has been crazy frequent between the incident and today. He was the only one familiar with the details of the case is what we had been told on his "days off" so no one else wanted to handle it.
 

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It's going to be a long, multi-page/paragraph 'splanation full of acronyms, euphemisms, and buzz words with some loose ideas about student safety.
Worst case scenario, is it possible he just fails upwards anyways? Gets another job somewhere else. I know that happens with cops quite a bit (no offense to any cops I'm not anti police just saying we've all seen it happen)
 

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Honestly, I have come to suspect our local police aren't very good at their jobs.

Particularly the one who handled our case. But no one else would help us when he was "on vacation", which has been crazy frequent between the incident and today. He was the only one familiar with the details of the case is what we had been told on his "days off" so no one else wanted to handle it.

Make sure the public knows this when election time comes around.
 
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Honestly, I have come to suspect our local police aren't very good at their jobs.

Particularly the one who handled our case. But no one else would help us when he was "on vacation", which has been crazy frequent between the incident and today. He was the only one familiar with the details of the case is what we had been told on his "days off" so no one else wanted to handle it.

I'm thinking the SCHOOL DISTRICT should have that as a mandatory procedure.
 
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Every child does have a right to an education, even the ones causing a disturbance. The schools have channels to educate these students differently. The problem is are we funding those channels. When a school is told to educate all these kids by law, and the government says but we will only fund it 50% of the way. The school has to figure it out. I am not an apologist, but will acknowledge that it is difficult.

Also, kids get expelled all the time. More than not it is the kid who is in special needs, because he is seen as the problem.
Here instead of the bully going to alternative school, usually the victim winds up there or home schooling
 
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Yeah, pretty much handcuffed. Doesnt help her principal doesnt follow the rules when dealing with this behavior. She just avoids it.
This kind of thing is a problem EVERYWHERE. Everyone wants the title, power and paycheck but far too many don't want all that comes with it. Having that issue in our institutions is far worse than in private institutions.
 
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His arm had a dramatic V shape right below the mid point of the forearm. The bone was snapped clean through.

The Dr. wanted to put the poor kid under general anesthesia so he could manipulate his arm freely without causing excruciating pain. Great choice, but this obviously increased the cost dramatically. I can look it up later. Everything else you listed seems fairly accurate without looking at the hospital statements.

ER visit. Surgery. 1 splint 2 casts. I can't recall exactly how many dr visits. (It is all documented and my lawyer has it too.)

I have insurance. I won't say how much i paid out of pocket. Total cost was more like $8,000 total. Don't hold me to that. And yes thank you, It was not next to nothing to me lol! We also have two other kids to support.
Whoa, he was put under general for a non compound forearm fracture!?! That must have required a ton of manipulation to align for that to be recommended. Did you son ever say exactly what happened for it to break? Takes a non insignificant amount of force to both break and then move out of place to that degree even for an 8year old
 

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Whoa, he was put under general for a non compound forearm fracture!?! That must have required a ton of manipulation to align for that to be recommended. Did you son ever say exactly what happened for it to break? Takes a non insignificant amount of force to both break and then move out of place to that degree even for an 8year old

Maybe the case for some "frontier justice" just got better?
 

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Maybe the case for some "frontier justice" just got better?
Nope. Not the way that works, just makes everything worse and usually it’s the justice seeking party that gets the hammer. Plus in this day and age you’re likely to get shot seeking that justice. Still a brain dead idea regardless of what a persons animal brain is telling them.
 

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Whoa, he was put under general for a non compound forearm fracture!?! That must have required a ton of manipulation to align for that to be recommended. Did you son ever say exactly what happened for it to break? Takes a non insignificant amount of force to both break and then move out of place to that degree even for an 8year old
He was seated on the inside window seat. The offender was seated on the inside window seat in the row directly in front of him.

My son had his arm resting in/on that space between the bench in front of him and the window. His hand was extended into the seating area of the bench in front of him. The 16 year old grabbed it and snapped his wrist toward him. The bench of the seat acted as a fulcrum and it snapped. Why he did it is unclear, and I don't think it really matters especially given the age disparity and the resulting unnecessary violent act. It was a senseless and ruthlessly violent assault on a helpless little child by a much older kid who should never even think to do something like that. Period.

This is what my son told us and was corroborated by the juvenile witnesses who asked. We contacted the parents of the kids who saw it, asked if they would be willing to let their kids share what they saw (they all agreed) and relayed their names to the police and the school. These witnesses included the 8 year old girl seated next to my son and the teenage boy seated next to the offender.

Thank you for asking!
 

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